Posted by Herman Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
When steering upwind in a blow, my Freedom 28 (Mull), the steering
feels very stiff (a lot of friction). On all other points of sail and
when motoring, steering is smooth and easy. You Freedom 28 and 30 (Mull)
owners out there; do you also experience this? Is it considered normal?
Herm SV Impulse
Posted by Jay Glen (svfantasy@…>)
Herm,What type of steering do you have? Wheel, Tiller, quadrant & cable, hydraulic ?Anytime you sail to weather there are great stresses imposed on the rudder, and, therefore, steering system. This increases the friction factor, and if you do not have your sails trimmed properly to balance the helm you will experience severe weather helm. Not knowing your experience level maybe this is what is happening. When sailing off-wind these stresses are minimized.
Therefore, whichever type of system you have, you need to check your rudder bearings, steering cables, pulleys etc. When stresses are applied your rudder or components of the steering system may be binding. I hope this helps.
On 9/29/07, Herman Schiller <hschiller2@…> wrote:
When steering upwind in a blow, my Freedom 28 (Mull), the steering
feels very stiff (a lot of friction). On all other points of sail and
when motoring, steering is smooth and easy. You Freedom 28 and 30 (Mull)
owners out there; do you also experience this? Is it considered normal?
Herm SV Impulse
– Jay Glen ki6jtks/v FantasyFreedom 40 Cat-KetchSan Francisco Bay Area
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
It is wheel (Edson), and uses a circular quadrant with cable…
Unfortunately, my only experience has been with tiller-steered yachts
with outboard rudders, and I simply don’t know whether what I’m
experiencing is normal for this boat, which has a long, unsupported
rudder blade.
Herm
At 11:35 PM 9/29/2007, you wrote:
Herm,
What type of steering do you have? Wheel, Tiller, quadrant & cable,
hydraulic ?Anytime you sail to weather there are great stresses imposed on the
rudder, and, therefore, steering system. This increases the friction
factor, and if you do not have your sails trimmed properly to
balance the helm you will experience severe weather helm. Not
knowing your experience level maybe this is what is happening. When
sailing off-wind these stresses are minimized.Therefore, whichever type of system you have, you need to check your
rudder bearings, steering cables, pulleys etc. When stresses are
applied your rudder or components of the steering system may be
binding. I hope this helps.On 9/29/07, Herman Schiller
<mailto:hschiller2@...hschiller2@…> wrote:When steering upwind in a blow, my Freedom 28 (Mull), the steering
feels very stiff (a lot of friction). On all other points of sail and
when motoring, steering is smooth and easy. You Freedom 28 and 30 (Mull)
owners out there; do you also experience this? Is it considered normal?
Herm SV Impulse–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
If
you only experience this upwind in a blow, I think you are probably feeling the
water pressure on the rudder. Upwind in a blow is the one time I miss a
larger headsail to balance the boat.
Al
Lorman
F30
Ab Initio
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman and Gail
Schiller
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:39 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering Stiffness
\
It is wheel (Edson), and uses a circular
quadrant with cable…
Unfortunately, my only experience has been with tiller-steered yachts
with outboard rudders, and I simply don’t know whether what I’m
experiencing is normal for this boat, which has a long, unsupported
rudder blade.
Herm
At 11:35 PM 9/29/2007, you wrote:
Herm,
What type of steering do you have? Wheel, Tiller, quadrant & cable,
hydraulic ?Anytime you sail to weather there are great stresses imposed on the
rudder, and, therefore, steering system. This increases the friction
factor, and if you do not have your sails trimmed properly to
balance the helm you will experience severe weather helm. Not
knowing your experience level maybe this is what is happening. When
sailing off-wind these stresses are minimized.Therefore, whichever type of system you have, you need to check your
rudder bearings, steering cables, pulleys etc. When stresses are
applied your rudder or components of the steering system may be
binding. I hope this helps.On 9/29/07, Herman Schiller
<mailto:hschiller2@...hschiller2@…>
wrote:When steering upwind in a blow, my Freedom 28 (Mull), the steering
feels very stiff (a lot of friction). On all other points of sail and
when motoring, steering is smooth and easy. You Freedom 28 and 30 (Mull)
owners out there; do you also experience this? Is it considered normal?
Herm SV Impulse–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
\
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I too have a Mull
28, but with a new carbon fiber rudder shaft and rudder as mine failed about a
year and a half ago. I today have some increase in friction in a blow, but it
isn’t much of a problem and it isn’t severe. Seems about the same
as when I had my original rudder.
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From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Schiller
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007
7:59 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Steering Stiffness
When steering upwind in a blow, my Freedom 28 (Mull), the steering
feels very stiff (a lot of friction). On all other points of sail and
when motoring, steering is smooth and easy. You Freedom 28 and 30 (Mull)
owners out there; do you also experience this? Is it considered normal?
Herm SV Impulse
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Posted by fairways31 (fairways31@…>)
Norman rudder bearing was too tight when made honed mine out a bit
but still did not fix it just learned to live with it and reef
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:
It is wheel (Edson), and uses a circular quadrant with cable…
Unfortunately, my only experience has been with tiller-steered
yachts
with outboard rudders, and I simply don’t know whether what I’m
experiencing is normal for this boat, which has a long, unsupported
rudder blade.
HermAt 11:35 PM 9/29/2007, you wrote:
Herm,
What type of steering do you have? Wheel, Tiller, quadrant &
cable,
hydraulic ?Anytime you sail to weather there are great stresses imposed on
the
rudder, and, therefore, steering system. This increases the
friction
factor, and if you do not have your sails trimmed properly to
balance the helm you will experience severe weather helm. Not
knowing your experience level maybe this is what is happening.
When
sailing off-wind these stresses are minimized.Therefore, whichever type of system you have, you need to check
your
rudder bearings, steering cables, pulleys etc. When stresses are
applied your rudder or components of the steering system may be
binding. I hope this helps.On 9/29/07, Herman Schiller
<mailto:hschiller2@...hschiller2@…> wrote:When steering upwind in a blow, my Freedom 28 (Mull), the steering
feels very stiff (a lot of friction). On all other points of sail
and
when motoring, steering is smooth and easy. You Freedom 28 and 30
(Mull)
owners out there; do you also experience this? Is it considered
normal?
Herm SV Impulse–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
For the past three days I left Boonesdock Marine, Oriental, NC heading for
Coinjock. It was blowing anywhere from 12-25 knots for three day constant and
is forecasted until Thursday. Not bad experience for someone new to Freedoms
with a touch engine. Once I round the corner into the bay all hell broke loose
wind WIND and of course the over heated CW alarm. I did not plan to sail so the
jib was not even on deck. Needless to say no engine could not get head to wind
to raise sails so it was start at A and go to Z real quick. Fortunately it told
only the raw water filter which had absolutely nothing in it to get the engine
going again. So for two days it was motoring head into the wind, going into
both marinas, Belhaven and Alligator River Marina, at night dark as hell.
Anyway final going across from Alligator River to Elizabeth City, NC with wind
forecasted for 20+ and seas 2-3 choppy I got brave enought (tried of going so
slow on engine with the wind against you) I raised the jib. Not bad, 5.1 knots
with motor up from 3 knots. So let raise the main with two reefs, not bad
again, 5.5 to 6 knots sometime in the 7s, no motor. All the way to Elizabeth
City finally with NO reefs! What a sail!
Anyway under sail I too experience hard steering into the wind but that was
going on with full sails and some pretty powerful winds. I believe windward you
are going to have this with some good winds.
I am home now totally exhausted and my son may never volunteer again (his first
time on a sailboat).
Bob
Bob
=====================
From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>
Date: 2007/09/30 Sun PM 07:51:09 CDT
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering Stiffness
Ifyou only experience this upwind in a blow, I think you are probably feeling
thewater pressure on the rudder. Upwind in a blow is the one time I miss
alarger headsail to balance the boat.
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AlLorman
F30Ab Initio
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From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Herman and GailSchiller
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:39 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering Stiffness
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It is wheel (Edson), and uses a circularquadrant with cable…
Unfortunately, my only experience has been with tiller-steered yachts
with outboard rudders, and I simply don’t know whether what I’m
experiencing is normal for this boat, which has a long, unsupported
rudder blade.
Herm
At 11:35 PM 9/29/2007, you wrote:
Herm,
What type of steering do you have? Wheel, Tiller, quadrant & cable,
hydraulic ?Anytime you sail to weather there are great stresses imposed on the
rudder, and, therefore, steering system. This increases the friction
factor, and if you do not have your sails trimmed properly to
balance the helm you will experience severe weather helm. Not
knowing your experience level maybe this is what is happening. When
sailing off-wind these stresses are minimized.Therefore, whichever type of system you have, you need to check your
rudder bearings, steering cables, pulleys etc. When stresses are
applied your rudder or components of the steering system may be
binding. I hope this helps.On 9/29/07, Herman Schiller
<mailto:hschiller2@...hschiller2@…>wrote:When steering upwind in a blow, my Freedom 28 (Mull), the steering
feels very stiff (a lot of friction). On all other points of sail and
when motoring, steering is smooth and easy. You Freedom 28 and 30 (Mull)
owners out there; do you also experience this? Is it considered normal?
Herm SV Impulse–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)
Sounds like quite an adventure!
One thing I’m curious about though is using just the jib on a
Freedom. On Glory we’ve got running backs so I think I can keep the
mast from loading up in the wrong direction, but do others out there
sail their 32s, 35s, 38s, etc. under jib alone? My impression is that
the main has a stabilizing force on the mast that running with just a
jib you don’t get. Thoughts… comments?
Lance
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Bob <rweeks6508@…> wrote:
For the past three days I left Boonesdock Marine, Oriental, NC
heading for Coinjock. It was blowing anywhere from 12-25 knots for
three day constant and is forecasted until Thursday. Not bad
experience for someone new to Freedoms with a touch engine. Once I
round the corner into the bay all hell broke loose wind WIND and of
course the over heated CW alarm. I did not plan to sail so the jib
was not even on deck. Needless to say no engine could not get head
to wind to raise sails so it was start at A and go to Z real quick.
Fortunately it told only the raw water filter which had absolutely
nothing in it to get the engine going again. So for two days it was
motoring head into the wind, going into both marinas, Belhaven and
Alligator River Marina, at night dark as hell.Anyway final going across from Alligator River to Elizabeth City,
NC with wind forecasted for 20+ and seas 2-3 choppy I got brave
enought (tried of going so slow on engine with the wind against you)
I raised the jib. Not bad, 5.1 knots with motor up from 3 knots. So
let raise the main with two reefs, not bad again, 5.5 to 6 knots
sometime in the 7s, no motor. All the way to Elizabeth City finally
with NO reefs! What a sail!Anyway under sail I too experience hard steering into the wind but
that was going on with full sails and some pretty powerful winds. I
believe windward you are going to have this with some good winds.I am home now totally exhausted and my son may never volunteer
again (his first time on a sailboat).Bob
Bob
=====================
From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>
Date: 2007/09/30 Sun PM 07:51:09 CDT
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering StiffnessIfyou only experience this upwind in a blow, I think you are
probably feeling thewater pressure on the rudder. Upwind in a
blow is the one time I miss alarger headsail to balance the boat.
ÂÂ
AlLorman
F30Ab Initio
ÂÂ
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman and
GailSchiller
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:39 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering Stiffness
ÂÂ
It is wheel (Edson), and uses a circularquadrant with cable…
Unfortunately, my only experience has been with tiller-steered
yachts
with outboard rudders, and I simply don’t know whether what I’m
experiencing is normal for this boat, which has a long, unsupported
rudder blade.
HermAt 11:35 PM 9/29/2007, you wrote:
Herm,
What type of steering do you have? Wheel, Tiller, quadrant &
cable,
hydraulic ?Anytime you sail to weather there are great stresses imposed on
the
rudder, and, therefore, steering system. This increases the
friction
factor, and if you do not have your sails trimmed properly to
balance the helm you will experience severe weather helm. Not
knowing your experience level maybe this is what is happening.
When
sailing off-wind these stresses are minimized.Therefore, whichever type of system you have, you need to check
your
rudder bearings, steering cables, pulleys etc. When stresses are
applied your rudder or components of the steering system may be
binding. I hope this helps.On 9/29/07, Herman Schiller
<mailto:hschiller2@...hschiller2@…>wrote:When steering upwind in a blow, my Freedom 28 (Mull), the steering
feels very stiff (a lot of friction). On all other points of sail
and
when motoring, steering is smooth and easy. You Freedom 28 and 30
(Mull)
owners out there; do you also experience this? Is it considered
normal?
Herm SV Impulse–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
Posted by twales@… (twales@…>)
From: lance_ryley lance_ryley@…
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:38:50 -0000
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering Stiffness
Sounds like quite an adventure!
One thing I’m curious about though is using just the jib on a
Freedom. On Glory we’ve got running backs so I think I can keep the
mast from loading up in the wrong direction, but do others out there
sail their 32s, 35s, 38s, etc. under jib alone? My impression is that
the main has a stabilizing force on the mast that running with just a
jib you don’t get. Thoughts.. comments?
Lance
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Bob <rweeks6508@…> wrote:
For the past three days I left Boonesdock Marine, Oriental, NC
heading for Coinjock. It was blowing anywhere from 12-25 knots for
three day constant and is forecasted until Thursday. Not bad
experience for someone new to Freedoms with a touch engine. Once I
round the corner into the bay all hell broke loose wind WIND and of
course the over heated CW alarm. I did not plan to sail so the jib
was not even on deck. Needless to say no engine could not get head
to wind to raise sails so it was start at A and go to Z real quick.
Fortunately it told only the raw water filter which had absolutely
nothing in it to get the engine going again. So for two days it was
motoring head into the wind, going into both marinas, Belhaven and
Alligator River Marina, at night dark as hell.Anyway final going across from Alligator River to Elizabeth City,
NC with wind forecasted for 20+ and seas 2-3 choppy I got brave
enought (tried of going so slow on engine with the wind against you)
I raised the jib. Not bad, 5.1 knots with motor up from 3 knots. So
let raise the main with two reefs, not bad again, 5.5 to 6 knots
sometime in the 7s, no motor. All the way to Elizabeth City finally
with NO reefs! What a sail!Anyway under sail I too experience hard steering into the wind but
that was going on with full sails and some pretty powerful winds. I
believe windward you are going to have this with some good winds.I am home now totally exhausted and my son may never volunteer
again (his first time on a sailboat).Bob
Bob
=====================
From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>
Date: 2007/09/30 Sun PM 07:51:09 CDT
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering StiffnessIfyou only experience this upwind in a blow, I think you are
probably feeling thewater pressure on the rudder. Upwind in a
blow is the one time I miss alarger headsail to balance the boat.
Â
AlLorman
F30Ab Initio
Â
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman and
GailSchiller
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:39 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering Stiffness
Â
It is wheel (Edson), and uses a circularquadrant with cable..
Unfortunately, my only experience has been with tiller-steered
yachts
with outboard rudders, and I simply don’t know whether what I’m
experiencing is normal for this boat, which has a long, unsupported
rudder blade.
HermAt 11:35 PM 9/29/2007, you wrote:
Herm,
What type of steering do you have? Wheel, Tiller, quadrant &
cable,
hydraulic ?Anytime you sail to weather there are great stresses imposed on
the
rudder, and, therefore, steering system. This increases the
friction
factor, and if you do not have your sails trimmed properly to
balance the helm you will experience severe weather helm. Not
knowing your experience level maybe this is what is happening.
When
sailing off-wind these stresses are minimized.Therefore, whichever type of system you have, you need to check
your
rudder bearings, steering cables, pulleys etc. When stresses are
applied your rudder or components of the steering system may be
binding. I hope this helps.On 9/29/07, Herman Schiller
<mailto:hschiller2@...hschiller2@…>wrote:When steering upwind in a blow, my Freedom 28 (Mull), the steering
feels very stiff (a lot of friction). On all other points of sail
and
when motoring, steering is smooth and easy. You Freedom 28 and 30
(Mull)
owners out there; do you also experience this? Is it considered
normal?
Herm SV Impulse–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted by twales@… (twales@…>)
From: lance_ryley lance_ryley@…
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:38:50 -0000
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering Stiffness
Sounds like quite an adventure!
One thing I’m curious about though is using just the jib on a
Freedom. On Glory we’ve got running backs so I think I can keep the
mast from loading up in the wrong direction, but do others out there
sail their 32s, 35s, 38s, etc. under jib alone? My impression is that
the main has a stabilizing force on the mast that running with just a
jib you don’t get. Thoughts.. comments?
Lance
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Bob <rweeks6508@…> wrote:
For the past three days I left Boonesdock Marine, Oriental, NC
heading for Coinjock. It was blowing anywhere from 12-25 knots for
three day constant and is forecasted until Thursday. Not bad
experience for someone new to Freedoms with a touch engine. Once I
round the corner into the bay all hell broke loose wind WIND and of
course the over heated CW alarm. I did not plan to sail so the jib
was not even on deck. Needless to say no engine could not get head
to wind to raise sails so it was start at A and go to Z real quick.
Fortunately it told only the raw water filter which had absolutely
nothing in it to get the engine going again. So for two days it was
motoring head into the wind, going into both marinas, Belhaven and
Alligator River Marina, at night dark as hell.Anyway final going across from Alligator River to Elizabeth City,
NC with wind forecasted for 20+ and seas 2-3 choppy I got brave
enought (tried of going so slow on engine with the wind against you)
I raised the jib. Not bad, 5.1 knots with motor up from 3 knots. So
let raise the main with two reefs, not bad again, 5.5 to 6 knots
sometime in the 7s, no motor. All the way to Elizabeth City finally
with NO reefs! What a sail!Anyway under sail I too experience hard steering into the wind but
that was going on with full sails and some pretty powerful winds. I
believe windward you are going to have this with some good winds.I am home now totally exhausted and my son may never volunteer
again (his first time on a sailboat).Bob
Bob
=====================
From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>
Date: 2007/09/30 Sun PM 07:51:09 CDT
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering StiffnessIfyou only experience this upwind in a blow, I think you are
probably feeling thewater pressure on the rudder. Upwind in a
blow is the one time I miss alarger headsail to balance the boat.
Â
AlLorman
F30Ab Initio
Â
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman and
GailSchiller
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:39 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Steering Stiffness
Â
It is wheel (Edson), and uses a circularquadrant with cable..
Unfortunately, my only experience has been with tiller-steered
yachts
with outboard rudders, and I simply don’t know whether what I’m
experiencing is normal for this boat, which has a long, unsupported
rudder blade.
HermAt 11:35 PM 9/29/2007, you wrote:
Herm,
What type of steering do you have? Wheel, Tiller, quadrant &
cable,
hydraulic ?Anytime you sail to weather there are great stresses imposed on
the
rudder, and, therefore, steering system. This increases the
friction
factor, and if you do not have your sails trimmed properly to
balance the helm you will experience severe weather helm. Not
knowing your experience level maybe this is what is happening.
When
sailing off-wind these stresses are minimized.Therefore, whichever type of system you have, you need to check
your
rudder bearings, steering cables, pulleys etc. When stresses are
applied your rudder or components of the steering system may be
binding. I hope this helps.On 9/29/07, Herman Schiller
<mailto:hschiller2@...hschiller2@…>wrote:When steering upwind in a blow, my Freedom 28 (Mull), the steering
feels very stiff (a lot of friction). On all other points of sail
and
when motoring, steering is smooth and easy. You Freedom 28 and 30
(Mull)
owners out there; do you also experience this? Is it considered
normal?
Herm SV Impulse–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted by seychellois_lib (mcunningham@…>)
Sounds like weather helm to me. I sail the SF Bay so I know all about
weather helm. As wind builds I take the following steps more or less
in this order
Flatten the main - rig a cunningham if you haven’t already got one and
tighten the outhaul.
Traveller to leward
first reef - make sure you get a nice tight reef to keep the sail flat
adjust the traveller as required
repeat through reefs two and three
I’ve been out in 30 Kt winds with good flat third reef, traveller
appropriately adjusted and the boat remained nicely balanced, so it is
doable.
Above 30Kts I haven’t figured out where to go. I suppose you could
douse the jib - I usually suffer and run for cover cause the foredeck
doesn’t look all that inviting in that weather esp. as I am a
singlehander. When I replace my main I’m having a fourth reefing
cringle installed to allow me to create a sort of storm sail out of
the main.
Some folks see reefing as some sort of loss of manhood, in fact it
makes a 30Kt day quite enjoyable. The boat easily moves at hull speed
with a triple reef BTW
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
I think that what you’re describing is the force of the weather-helm
on the rather huge, unsupported rudder blade causing the
stiffness/friction I’m feeling at the wheel. I’m beginning to
understand that what is obviously a lot of tiller angle on a
transom-hung rudder on something like the Freedom-25, translates to
heavy loads on the lower rudder bearing which has no means of
lubrication other than water. BTW, the genius at T-P that put the
lube fitting on the upper rudder bearing facing AFT, should be cursed
with arthritis for the rest of his/her days. Herm
At 10:43 AM 10/7/2007, you wrote:
Sounds like weather helm to me. I sail the SF Bay so I know all about
weather helm. As wind builds I take the following steps more or less
in this orderFlatten the main - rig a cunningham if you haven’t already got one and
tighten the outhaul.Traveller to leward
first reef - make sure you get a nice tight reef to keep the sail flat
adjust the traveller as required
repeat through reefs two and three
I’ve been out in 30 Kt winds with good flat third reef, traveller
appropriately adjusted and the boat remained nicely balanced, so it is
doable.Above 30Kts I haven’t figured out where to go. I suppose you could
douse the jib - I usually suffer and run for cover cause the foredeck
doesn’t look all that inviting in that weather esp. as I am a
singlehander. When I replace my main I’m having a fourth reefing
cringle installed to allow me to create a sort of storm sail out of
the main.Some folks see reefing as some sort of loss of manhood, in fact it
makes a 30Kt day quite enjoyable. The boat easily moves at hull speed
with a triple reef BTW
Posted by seychellois_lib (mcunningham@…>)
I have a copy of the Freedom factory recommended rudder bearing
replacement procedure. The zerks should be placed port or stbd on the
rudder tube. The holes are drilled just above each bearing. I guess
the thinking is that grease flows downhill so will find the bearing as
it slowly flows down.
West systems widely available epoxy repair handbook describes the
replacement of SS bearings with a graphite infused epoxy bearing that
you essentially pour yourself. This scheme eliminates the need for
grease. Wonder how well it works.
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Could
you please post the factory document on the files section of this site?
Many
thanks.
Al
Lorman
F30
Ab Initio
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of seychellois_lib
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:52 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Steering Stiffness
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I have a copy of the Freedom factory
recommended rudder bearing
replacement procedure. The zerks should be placed port or stbd on the
rudder tube. The holes are drilled just above each bearing. I guess
the thinking is that grease flows downhill so will find the bearing as
it slowly flows down.
West systems widely available epoxy repair handbook describes the
replacement of SS bearings with a graphite infused epoxy bearing that
you essentially pour yourself. This scheme eliminates the need for
grease. Wonder how well it works.
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