Posted by seychellois_lib (seychellois_lib@…>)
My H2O tank goes dry at the worst times. Anyone have a tachnique or a
technical solution for an F30. Eyeballing it would be the best but as
F30 owners know, the tank is buried below a screwed down panel under
the stbd. setee and not easy to get at. I’ve often considered
installing a small door in the facia of the settee base so I could
peek in at the poly tank and view the water level. This seems like a
pretty crude approach. Any ideas out there?
Tks
Mike
F30 #3
Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)
http://www.snake-river.org/ They make a neat, noninvasive tank
gauge.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “seychellois_lib”
<seychellois_lib@…> wrote:
My H2O tank goes dry at the worst times. Anyone have a tachnique
or
a
technical solution for an F30. Eyeballing it would be the best but
as
F30 owners know, the tank is buried below a screwed down panel
under
the stbd. setee and not easy to get at. I’ve often considered
installing a small door in the facia of the settee base so I could
peek in at the poly tank and view the water level. This seems like
a
pretty crude approach. Any ideas out there?
Tks
Mike
F30 #3
Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
Last year I put in a Raritan
dual fresh water tank monitor. It is non invasive. Some metallic tape with
adhesive you put on the outside of each tank and then wires go to the small
monitor. Draws no electricity unless you push the button to see tank levels
which are displayed as 1-4 red lights indicating level (not precise but meets
my needs). Has worked quite well.
Alan F-33 Hull #52 1982
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006
9:58 AM
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Water
tank Gauge
My H2O tank goes dry at the
worst times. Anyone have a tachnique or a
technical solution for an F30. Eyeballing it would
be the best but as
F30 owners know, the tank is buried below a
screwed down panel under
the stbd. setee and not easy to get at. I’ve often
considered
installing a small door in the facia of the settee
base so I could
peek in at the poly tank and view the water level.
This seems like a
pretty crude approach. Any ideas out there?
Tks
Mike
F30 #3
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Posted by Skip Turpin (skipperf33@…>)
It is true that there are commercial gauges out there and would not
put them down. However, in keeping with the “kiss” principle IE, no
electronics, no moving parts, no monitoring, no adjusting, no
calibrating, failsafe! Here is what I have done in the past.
If you attach a clear plastic hose into the fresh water system
anywhere below the level of the tank (bilge) and lead that line up to
any where convenient. It will, due the laws of physics, fill to the
level of the water in your tank. So mount the hose someplace where it
will be at the level of the tank and voila you have your “kiss gauge”!
Two things to keep in mind:
-
Make sure that the open end of the hose terminates well above
the top of the tank. Otherwise you could lose drinking water when
heavily heeled or in a rough seaway. You could install a valve at
the top, but then you will have strayed from “kiss”! (you would have
to open this valve to read your tank levels and then close it when
done. I personally have never forgot to open or close any valve on my
boat. RIGHT!!!
-
Because this line is open to your drinking water you would
want to almost completely seal it. A pin hole opening would be
sufficient to allow the air in the line to equalize pressure so that
the water would be able to seek its own level. Mounting a small
filter at the top would also do the trick.
Obviously the only part of this system that would have to be “see
through” would be the part level the tank. The size of the tubbing
does not mater, but all of it leading up to your viewing point must be
BELOW the level of the bottom of the tank!
My personal preference would be to install a ball valve at the point
that you attach this line to the water system (just in case!) Also I
would not be tempted to try to install this line actually into the
tank it self. That stuff can be hell to seal!
Skip
F33 CK # 65
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “seychellois_lib”
<seychellois_lib@…> wrote:
My H2O tank goes dry at the worst times. Anyone have a tachnique or
a
technical solution for an F30. Eyeballing it would be the best but
as
F30 owners know, the tank is buried below a screwed down panel under
the stbd. setee and not easy to get at. I’ve often considered
installing a small door in the facia of the settee base so I could
peek in at the poly tank and view the water level. This seems like a
pretty crude approach. Any ideas out there?
Tks
Mike
F30 #3
Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)
Mike: Our F30 #12 has a deep molded wedge indentation in top center of the tank which runs almost all the way to the bottom of the tank. You could cut a hole in the plywood cover and shine a light down into this wedge and get a good idea how full the tank is. If you will the tank with measured buckets, you could make the side of this wedge with gallon markings. On our boat I have actually removed the plywood cover and use the space under the starboard cushion for chart storage and other flat things (we carry extensive charts for the coast from Cananda to the Bahamas). We can easily check the tank by looking into the “wedge”. Fargo F30#12 NARISAseychellois_lib <seychellois_lib@…> wrote: My H2O tank goes dry at the worst times. Anyone have a tachnique or a technical solution for an F30. Eyeballing it would be the best but as F30 owners know, the tank is buried below a screwed down panel under the stbd. setee and not easy to get at. I’ve often considered installing a small door in the facia of the settee base so I could peek in at the poly tank and view the water level. This seems like a pretty crude approach. Any ideas out there? Tks Mike F30 #3
Posted by Paul McFadden (pwhitmac@…>)
On my 32, I “tee’d” into the line out the bottom of the tank to the pump, and into the breather line at the top of the tank. Between the two lines (hoses) I fitted a length of clear lucite tubing. Before I sealed the top fitting, I dropped a small red fishing float that fit inside the tube, but would not pass thru the fittings. The result is the most reliable Gauge available, a float Gauge. Works perfectly! PWMseychellois_lib <seychellois_lib@…> wrote: My H2O tank goes dry at the worst times. Anyone have a tachnique or a technical solution for an F30. Eyeballing it would be the best but as F30 owners know, the tank is buried below a screwed down panel under the stbd. setee and not easy to get at. I’ve often considered installing a small door in the facia of the settee base so I could peek in at the
poly tank and view the water level. This seems like a pretty crude approach. Any ideas out there?TksMikeF30 #3
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Posted by seychellois_lib (seychellois_lib@…>)
perfect. this suits the situation. My primary need is to determine
that, when filling, I have topped the tank off, and to very
ocassionally check level, I don’t need constant status.
I believe I can get at the tank via the inlet pipe to the pressure
pump which is close to the bottom of the tank and where I’m going to
want to measure the fill level anyway - the pump isn’t going to find
any water below the inlet. If I tee off there I ought to be able to
run the tube to a safe (no overflow) out of the way place where I can
check it easily. Unfortunately I’ll probably need a valve for an
install at this location but I’ll make sure the on/off is high enough
so even if I leave it open, worst case the pump sucks air till I close it.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Skip Turpin”
<skipperf33@…> wrote:
It is true that there are commercial gauges out there and would not
put them down. However, in keeping with the “kiss” principle IE, no
electronics, no moving parts, no monitoring, no adjusting, no
calibrating, failsafe! Here is what I have done in the past.
If you attach a clear plastic hose into the fresh water system
anywhere below the level of the tank (bilge) and lead that line up to
any where convenient. It will, due the laws of physics, fill to the
level of the water in your tank. So mount the hose someplace where it
will be at the level of the tank and voila you have your “kiss gauge”!
Two things to keep in mind:
-
Make sure that the open end of the hose terminates well above
the top of the tank. Otherwise you could lose drinking water when
heavily heeled or in a rough seaway. You could install a valve at
the top, but then you will have strayed from “kiss”! (you would have
to open this valve to read your tank levels and then close it when
done. I personally have never forgot to open or close any valve on my
boat. RIGHT!!!
-
Because this line is open to your drinking water you would
want to almost completely seal it. A pin hole opening would be
sufficient to allow the air in the line to equalize pressure so that
the water would be able to seek its own level. Mounting a small
filter at the top would also do the trick.
Obviously the only part of this system that would have to be “see
through” would be the part level the tank. The size of the tubbing
does not mater, but all of it leading up to your viewing point must be
BELOW the level of the bottom of the tank!
My personal preference would be to install a ball valve at the point
that you attach this line to the water system (just in case!) Also I
would not be tempted to try to install this line actually into the
tank it self. That stuff can be hell to seal!
Skip
F33 CK # 65
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “seychellois_lib”
<seychellois_lib@> wrote:
My H2O tank goes dry at the worst times. Anyone have a tachnique or
a
technical solution for an F30. Eyeballing it would be the best but
as
F30 owners know, the tank is buried below a screwed down panel under
the stbd. setee and not easy to get at. I’ve often considered
installing a small door in the facia of the settee base so I could
peek in at the poly tank and view the water level. This seems like a
pretty crude approach. Any ideas out there?
Tks
Mike
F30 #3
Posted by seychellois_lib (seychellois_lib@…>)
Fargo,
Yes, I also have the wedge. I’ve been in that space a number of times.
When you say you removed the cover, do you mean that you have
unscrewed it and are able to lift the cover for storage as is the case
under the port settee? I presume the actual plywood is still there to
form the base for the settee, correct?
Actually, I like this idea even more than the simple tube.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@…>
wrote:
Mike:
Our F30 #12 has a deep molded wedge indentation in top center of
the tank which runs almost all the way to the bottom of the tank. You
could cut a hole in the plywood cover and shine a light down into
this wedge and get a good idea how full the tank is. If you will the
tank with measured buckets, you could make the side of this wedge
with gallon markings.
On our boat I have actually removed the plywood cover and use the
space under the starboard cushion for chart storage and other flat
things (we carry extensive charts for the coast from Cananda to the
Bahamas). We can easily check the tank by looking into the “wedge”.
Fargo
F30#12 NARISA
seychellois_lib <seychellois_lib@…> wrote: My H2O tank goes
dry at the worst times. Anyone have a tachnique or a
technical solution for an F30. Eyeballing it would be the best but as
F30 owners know, the tank is buried below a screwed down panel under
the stbd. setee and not easy to get at. I’ve often considered
installing a small door in the facia of the settee base so I could
peek in at the poly tank and view the water level. This seems like a
pretty crude approach. Any ideas out there?
Tks
Mike
F30 #3
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Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)
Well, I am cheating a little. We removed the plywood cover and left it home. We pile up out large charts and other flat things and just set the cushion down on top of this 2 inch flat pile…no plywood. My wife and I are light…and we don’t jump up and down on that side of the boat anyway… Fargo F30#12 NARISA Ps. We also removed the aft and forward compartment doors…for the dual reason to make movement within the boat easier…and to lighten her werever possible…especially aft.seychellois_lib <seychellois_lib@…> wrote: Fargo, Yes, I also have the wedge. I’ve been in that space a number of times. When you say you removed the cover, do you mean that you have unscrewed it and are able to lift the cover for storage as is the case under the port settee? I
presume the actual plywood is still there to form the base for the settee, correct? Actually, I like this idea even more than the simple tube. — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@…> wrote: > > Mike: > > Our F30 #12 has a deep molded wedge indentation in top center of the tank which runs almost all the way to the bottom of the tank. You could cut a hole in the plywood cover and shine a light down into this wedge and get a good idea how full the tank is. If you will the tank with measured buckets, you could make the side of this wedge with gallon markings. > > On our boat I have actually removed the plywood cover and use the space under the starboard cushion for chart storage and other flat things (we carry
extensive charts for the coast from Cananda to the Bahamas). We can easily check the tank by looking into the “wedge”. > > Fargo > F30#12 NARISA > > seychellois_lib <seychellois_lib@…> wrote: My H2O tank goes dry at the worst times. Anyone have a tachnique or a > technical solution for an F30. Eyeballing it would be the best but as > F30 owners know, the tank is buried below a screwed down panel under > the stbd. setee and not easy to get at. I’ve often considered > installing a small door in the facia of the settee base so I could > peek in at the poly tank and view the water level. This seems like a > pretty crude approach. Any ideas out there? > > Tks > Mike > F30 #3 > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Sailing schools Sailing instruction Sailing lesson Sailing course Sailing
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