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Posted by jerry_magic1 (jerry_magic1@…>)

Been land cruisibg for the past 7 weeks. With time on my hands I’ve
toured the marinas in the San Francisco area looking for Freedoms.
Hard to do since the marinas are well secured to keep out rifraf like
me. Did find a nice F36 sloop like mine in Sausalito. Less masthead
junk and transom clutter giving it a cleaner look, but there is a
little more brightwork on deck. In addition to the handholds, it has
a teak eyebrow, which mine doesn’t. Might this make it an '88 model?
Mine’s an '87. It does show evidences of the “lack of rub rail
syndrome.” One of the three plastic thruhulls under the port side toe
rail has been broken off. I’ve lost two of these in the past and
later replaced them with bronze fittings.

Anyhow, when I left Texas, I stripped the sails and everything else I
could reasonably remove, off the boat to secure it for possible
hurricane conditions while I was gone. Am now thinking about the
effort involved in rehanging that big main sail when I get back in
three of four weeks. Was wondering if it made any sense to reinstall
the main loose footed. Anybody have some thoughts on that?

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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

Better control over bottom 1/3 of sail. Can be easier to rig preventer
since you can place a strap around boom that goes under sail.
Personally I like loosefooted but it just boils down to individual
preference. Is the boat mainly used for cruising or do you
occasionally do some racing?


Was wondering if it made any sense to reinstall

the main loose footed. Anybody have some thoughts on that?

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Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)

Hi Jerry,
if your main was built to slide into your boom, it was probably cut
with a ‘pocket’ to give the Main a proper shape. Leaving it loose-
footed might look a little awkward. However, a loose-footed main has
the potential for a lot more power, and generally a better looking
shape. You can probably have your main converted by a sailmaker to a
loose-footed cut for small money.

Bright Star’s new main is loose footed. I don’t know if it increased
her speed at all, but it is darn hard to make that sail look bad on
any point of sail.

Lance
Bright Star
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jerry_magic1”
<jerry_magic1@…> wrote:

Been land cruisibg for the past 7 weeks. With time on my hands
I’ve
toured the marinas in the San Francisco area looking for
Freedoms.
Hard to do since the marinas are well secured to keep out rifraf
like
me. Did find a nice F36 sloop like mine in Sausalito. Less
masthead
junk and transom clutter giving it a cleaner look, but there is a
little more brightwork on deck. In addition to the handholds, it
has
a teak eyebrow, which mine doesn’t. Might this make it an '88
model?
Mine’s an '87. It does show evidences of the “lack of rub rail
syndrome.” One of the three plastic thruhulls under the port side
toe
rail has been broken off. I’ve lost two of these in the past and
later replaced them with bronze fittings.

Anyhow, when I left Texas, I stripped the sails and everything
else I
could reasonably remove, off the boat to secure it for possible
hurricane conditions while I was gone. Am now thinking about the
effort involved in rehanging that big main sail when I get back in
three of four weeks. Was wondering if it made any sense to
reinstall
the main loose footed. Anybody have some thoughts on that?

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Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)

Re: recutting the main for loose foot. I had mine done this past winter
and it came out excellent. A loose foot will give more options for sail
shape. I love the loose foot. It cost about $100 to get done.
TW Anoush Koon




At 05:03 PM 7/5/2006 +0000, you wrote:

Hi Jerry,
if your main was built to slide into your boom, it was probably cut
with a ‘pocket’ to give the Main a proper shape. Leaving it loose-
footed might look a little awkward. However, a loose-footed main has
the potential for a lot more power, and generally a better looking
shape. You can probably have your main converted by a sailmaker to a
loose-footed cut for small money.

Bright Star’s new main is loose footed. I don’t know if it increased
her speed at all, but it is darn hard to make that sail look bad on
any point of sail.

Lance
Bright Star
— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“jerry_magic1”
<jerry_magic1@…> wrote:

Been land cruisibg for the past 7 weeks. With time on my hands
I’ve
toured the marinas in the San Francisco area looking for
Freedoms.
Hard to do since the marinas are well secured to keep out rifraf
like
me. Did find a nice F36 sloop like mine in Sausalito. Less
masthead
junk and transom clutter giving it a cleaner look, but there is a
little more brightwork on deck. In addition to the handholds, it
has
a teak eyebrow, which mine doesn’t. Might this make it an '88
model?
Mine’s an '87. It does show evidences of the “lack of rub rail
syndrome.” One of the three plastic thruhulls under the port side
toe
rail has been broken off. I’ve lost two of these in the past and
later replaced them with bronze fittings.

Anyhow, when I left Texas, I stripped the sails and everything
else I
could reasonably remove, off the boat to secure it for possible
hurricane conditions while I was gone. Am now thinking about the
effort involved in rehanging that big main sail when I get back in
three of four weeks. Was wondering if it made any sense to
reinstall
the main loose footed. Anybody have some thoughts on that?

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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

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Main


Re: recutting the main for loose foot. I had mine done this past winter

and it came out excellent. A loose foot will give more options for sail

shape. I love the loose foot. It cost about $100 to get done.
TW Anoush Koon




At 05:03 PM 7/5/2006 +0000, you wrote:

Hi Jerry,
if your main was built to slide into your boom, it was probably cut
with a ‘pocket’ to give the Main a proper shape. Leaving it loose-
footed might look a little awkward. However, a loose-footed main has
the potential for a lot more power, and generally a better looking
shape. You can probably have your main converted by a sailmaker to a
loose-footed cut for small money.

Bright Star’s new main is loose footed. I don’t know if it increased
her speed at all, but it is darn hard to make that sail look bad on
any point of sail.

Lance
Bright Star
— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogrou
ps.com,
“jerry_magic1”
<jerry_magic1@…> wrote:

Been land cruisibg for the past 7 weeks. With time on my hands
I’ve
toured the marinas in the San Francisco area looking for
Freedoms.
Hard to do since the marinas are well secured to keep out rifraf
like
me. Did find a nice F36 sloop like mine in Sausalito. Less
masthead
junk and transom clutter giving it a cleaner look, but there is a
little more brightwork on deck. In addition to the handholds, it
has
a teak eyebrow, which mine doesn’t. Might this make it an '88
model?
Mine’s an '87. It does show evidences of the “lack of rub rail
syndrome.” One of the three plastic thruhulls under the port side
toe
rail has been broken off. I’ve lost two of these in the past and
later replaced them with bronze fittings.

Anyhow, when I left Texas, I stripped the sails and everything
else I
could reasonably remove, off the boat to secure it for possible
hurricane conditions while I was gone. Am now thinking about the
effort involved in rehanging that big main sail when I get back in
three of four weeks. Was wondering if it made any sense to
reinstall
the main loose footed. Anybody have some thoughts on that?

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Posted by jerry_magic1 (jerry_magic1@…>)

—<lance_ryley@…> wrote:

if your main was built to slide into your boom, it was probably cut
with a ‘pocket’ to give the Main a proper shape. Leaving it loose-
footed might look a little awkward.

My boat and I are in a strictly cruising relationship.

I’m thinking I’ll try the loose foot with the sail as is initially and
then do the sailmaker fix after a couple of weeks. Any issues involved
with dropping the sail without the rope slide into the boom?

Guess I’ll have to take a critical look at the condition of the
outhaul gear. Seems like the loose foot configuration might put a
good bit more strain on those components.

Thanks for the inputs.

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Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)

You may want to get a piece of velcro tape to attache the clew to the
boom. My sailmaker gave me a piece of high strength velcro tape to wrap
around the boom and through the clew instead of installing a slug at the
end of the sail. With the proper tension on the outhaul, you’ll have no
problem dropping the sail. I presume you have your lazyjacks set up
properly, too.
Good luck.
TW Anoush Koon



At 11:32 PM 7/5/2006 +0000, you wrote:

—<lance_ryley@…> wrote:

if your main was built to slide into your boom, it was probably cut
with a ‘pocket’ to give the Main a proper shape. Leaving it loose-
footed might look a little awkward.

My boat and I are in a strictly cruising relationship.

I’m thinking I’ll try the loose foot with the sail as is initially and
then do the sailmaker fix after a couple of weeks. Any issues involved
with dropping the sail without the rope slide into the boom?

Guess I’ll have to take a critical look at the condition of the
outhaul gear. Seems like the loose foot configuration might put a
good bit more strain on those components.

Thanks for the inputs.

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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

Not small money. If you want to do it right you need additional cloth
to provide some roach for the foot.
Probably half a day in the loft and $100-200 in materials.

Leaving it loose-

footed might look a little awkward. However, a loose-footed main has
the potential for a lot more power, and generally a better looking
shape. You can probably have your main converted by a sailmaker to a
loose-footed cut for small money.