Posted by notnat40 (davidhanson@…>)
Would like to install a windvane on my F28CK this winter…any
suggestions…Thanks, David
Posted by andre laviolette (andrelaviolette@…>)
Windvane. I was happy with my Monitor vane, stainless near copy of Aries, on my W 32. It was very powerful. You may find that the mizzen will interfere with most vanes. I found that an electronic autopilot is much more useful. Works under power, works when motorsailing. works in light airs, woks in heavy air, simpler to install and much cheaper. I would only perhaps consider one if I was crossing an ocean, and ever then, you would find that you will be powering much more than we are led to believe. Andre.notnat40 <davidhanson@…> wrote: Would like to install a windvane on my F28CK this winter…any suggestions…Thanks, David
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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
I had a Voyager Windvane on my F33 catketch. The maker has cast and
anodized a special fitting piece for me to fit the vane behind the
rudder and rudder stock and clear of the mizzen wishbone aft end. At
no extra cost. I was very satisfied with it.
Michel
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Would like to install a windvane on my F28CK this winter…any
suggestions…Thanks, David
Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
I am in the middle of installing the
voyager on my F-33. I can not comment on its performance but it is quite
impressively engineered and the vendor is very helpful.
Alan F-33 Hull#51 1982
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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006
11:17 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re:
wind vanes for cat ketchs
I had a Voyager Windvane on my F33 catketch. The maker
has cast and
anodized a special fitting piece for me to fit the vane behind the
rudder and rudder stock and clear of the mizzen wishbone aft end. At
no extra cost. I was very satisfied with it.
Michel
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“notnat40” <davidhanson@…>
wrote:
Would like to install a windvane on my F28CK this winter…any
suggestions…Thanks, David
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Posted by Skip Turpin (skipperf33@…>)
Monitor Windvane? YES!
I have used a Monitor for 5 years now. Primarily cruising my F33 CK
with standard booms and a tiller. I am so happy with it that I gave
it a name! “Abigail” is permanently on my crew list.
There have been very few times that it did not do its job for days on
end! Sometimes running downwind you have to play with sail balance
to give it half a chance, but other than that the thing has been
flawless. It seems the worse conditions get, the better she does for
me. I can’t speak for other rigs, but this one was one of the first,
if not the first, on the scene and is built like a tank. It has
become both a boarding ladder and my dinghy dock. Maintenance has
been minimal, a little Never Dull every now and then keeps her
looking new!
The folks at the factory are very knowledgeable and helpful. For the
most part, you just tell them what boat you would like to install it
on and, voila, all the right parts with detailed instructions with
pictures(for us engineer types) shows up in the box. If you have any
special challenges, just send them pictures with appropriate
dimensions and the result will be the same! (And NO, I don’t hold
stock in this company! I am just impressed with the rig and their
level of service!) If you go to their web site you can download the
complete owners manual, installation instructions and parts list. If
I remember correctly they also posted all the prices also. There are
many photos of different installations too. By now I would think,
these things have been installed on just about every boat known to
man.
The servo rudder has a built in fail point that will shear if
needed. I have never needed it, yet (knock, knock). Even then, the
servo rudder is tethered to the boat so nothing is lost! It is then
a simple matter to R&R the damaged safety sleeve and you are on your
way. On the F33 the servo rudder is well protected to start with.
I like the fact that the servo rudder unlocks and pivots up to a
stored position out of the water. Two seconds and it swings back
into position! I have noticed that if you try to do this while
underway, it is easier to use a broom stick to push the tail of the
servo rudder down to get it to lock into position.
MOTORING with a TILLER PILOT
Monitor warns that you will incur more wear doing this, because the
servo rudder is placed directly in the prop wash. I am willing to
take the added wear as I am single handing. Also your tiller pilot
will only have to move but a few ounces rather than pounds to steer
your boat. And it does not matter how big it is!!!
HERE’S HOW
I have a small block attached to the counter weight, to which I have
installed the business end attachment pin for my tiller pilot. (Some
day I will drill and tap the weight to install the pin! Ya Right!)
The other end of the pilot is attached to my stern rail(another block
clamped). Make sure you use a tether for your tiller pilot or you
will not own it long!!! Davie Jones locker is full of those
critters!
You will also have to install an exterior 12v outlet close by but out
of harms way. Don’t skimp here, get the good one!!! When choosing
this location, keep in mind that the DC plug on the end of your
pilot’s power cord sticks out of the DC outlet. I could have done
better here! My plug can easily be stepped on or kicked when in
use. I have already inadvertently nudged it with my leg only to find
out an hour or two later, that I had shut the pilot down and my
course was shot! Had there been weather, this could have been more
serious! So do it right the first time!
HOW TO USE IT
With the wind “vane” removed(the long paddle on the top), the servo
rudder centered and the boat on course, you install the motor end of
your pilot into the mounting hardware on your stern rail. Next you
adjust the length of the driving arm of your tiller pilot till you
can “SNAP” it onto the pin on the counterweight. You are now in
business!
A little fine tuning may be in order for a few minutes to stabilize
things, then set the pilot to automatically steer. Once working, you
can use the tiller pilot to make course changes or any other function
it is capable of performing. All your tiller pilot will have to push
is the counterweight. The Monitor will do the rest!
I have done some experimentation with starting with the servo rudder
adjusted off center to get it out of the prop wash. This works only
for holding course in light air and pretty calm conditions. I figure
the added cost of wear on the Monitor will be offset by not having to
buy a new tiller pilot every whip stitch because it died an early
death from over work! I also rarely run my engine over 1800 rpm (3GM
30) when motoring. That is the nice thing about cruising, who is in
a hurry?
Long winded?(what’s new)! Hope this is of help to some of you folks.
Skip
SV Wanderin’ Star
Posted by johnpolecat3@… (johnpolecat3@…)
Short winded but the Monitor worked great on my 44 and the help from them is absolute… they will bend over backward for you know matter where your at… thanks dealt with them on other boats and other issues thanks john
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From: skipperf33@…
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 12:57 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: wind vanes for cat ketchs
Monitor Windvane? YES!
I have used a Monitor for 5 years now. Primarily cruising my F33 CK
with standard booms and a tiller. I am so happy with it that I gave
it a name! “Abigail” is permanently on my crew list.
There have been very few times that it did not do its job for days on
end! Sometimes running downwind you have to play with sail balance
to give it half a chance, but other than that the thing has been
flawless. It seems the worse conditions get, the better she does for
me. I can’t speak for other rigs, but this one was one of the first,
if not the first, on the scene and is built like a tank. It has
become both a boarding ladder and my dinghy dock. Maintenance has
been minimal, a little Never Dull every now and then keeps her
looking new!
The folks at the factory are very knowledgeable and helpful. For the
most part, you just tell them what boat you would like to install it
on and, voila, all the right parts with detailed instructions with
pictures(for us engineer types) shows up in the box. If you have any
special challenges, just send them pictures with appropriate
dimensions and the result will be the same! (And NO, I don’t hold
stock in this company! I am just impressed with the rig and their
level of service!) If you go to their web site you can download the
complete owners manual, installation instructions and parts list. If
I remember correctly they also posted all the prices also. There are
many photos of different installations too. By now I would think,
these things have been installed on just about every boat known to
man.
The servo rudder has a built in fail point that will shear if
needed. I have never needed it, yet (knock, knock). Even then, the
servo rudder is tethered to the boat so nothing is lost! It is then
a simple matter to R&R the damaged safety sleeve and you are on your
way. On the F33 the servo rudder is well protected to start with.
I like the fact that the servo rudder unlocks and pivots up to a
stored position out of the water. Two seconds and it swings back
into position! I have noticed that if you try to do this while
underway, it is easier to use a broom stick to push the tail of the
servo rudder down to get it to lock into position.
MOTORING with a TILLER PILOT
Monitor warns that you will incur more wear doing this, because the
servo rudder is placed directly in the prop wash. I am willing to
take the added wear as I am single handing. Also your tiller pilot
will only have to move but a few ounces rather than pounds to steer
your boat. And it does not matter how big it is!!!
HERE’S HOW
I have a small block attached to the counter weight, to which I have
installed the business end attachment pin for my tiller pilot. (Some
day I will drill and tap the weight to install the pin! Ya Right!)
The other end of the pilot is attached to my stern rail(another block
clamped). Make sure you use a tether for your tiller pilot or you
will not own it long!!! Davie Jones locker is full of those
critters!
You will also have to install an exterior 12v outlet close by but out
of harms way. Don’t skimp here, get the good one!!! When choosing
this location, keep in mind that the DC plug on the end of your
pilot’s power cord sticks out of the DC outlet. I could have done
better here! My plug can easily be stepped on or kicked when in
use. I have already inadvertently nudged it with my leg only to find
out an hour or two later, that I had shut the pilot down and my
course was shot! Had there been weather, this could have been more
serious! So do it right the first time!
HOW TO USE IT
With the wind “vane” removed(the long paddle on the top), the servo
rudder centered and the boat on course, you install the motor end of
your pilot into the mounting hardware on your stern rail. Next you
adjust the length of the driving arm of your tiller pilot till you
can “SNAP” it onto the pin on the counterweight. You are now in
business!
A little fine tuning may be in order for a few minutes to stabilize
things, then set the pilot to automatically steer. Once working, you
can use the tiller pilot to make course changes or any other function
it is capable of performing. All your tiller pilot will have to push
is the counterweight. The Monitor will do the rest!
I have done some experimentation with starting with the servo rudder
adjusted off center to get it out of the prop wash. This works only
for holding course in light air and pretty calm conditions. I figure
the added cost of wear on the Monitor will be offset by not having to
buy a new tiller pilot every whip stitch because it died an early
death from over work! I also rarely run my engine over 1800 rpm (3GM
30) when motoring. That is the nice thing about cruising, who is in
a hurry?
Long winded?(what’s new)! Hope this is of help to some of you folks.
Skip
SV Wanderin’ Star
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Posted by andre laviolette (andrelaviolette@…>)
No one mentioned that perhaps a 5,000 $ , if you install it yourself self steering vane, is a lot of money for a boat of that value. Perhaps you can find a used one for less. They are in hot demand however. An electronic unit is less than 1000$ and can be interphased. A tiller instalation less than 500 $ .Your boat weighs less than 7,000 lbs. There are other windvanes . You don’t need that much power. Our Monitor would sail the North Sea Beast’s 20,000 lb when we could no longer. Andre.notnat40 <davidhanson@…> wrote: Would like to install a windvane on my F28CK this winter…any suggestions…Thanks, David
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