Composting toilet

Posted by daniel.oshaughnessy (daniel.oshaughnessy@…>)

I finished installing a Nature’s Head composting toilet in my F33 (Hull
45) about a week ago. The toilet is of a robust construction. I looked
at the alternative AirHead, whilst at the Annapolis boat show, but
thought it looked somewhat flimsy.
Now the important bits!!!
Does it smell? Not so far.
My head is now a delightful place to stand and shave!!!
I ventured up on the foredeck yesterday, where the air vent is sited. I
couldn’t resist sniffing around the area and was unable to perceive
any “sewage” smell. The vent is permanently hooked up to the toilets
small extractor fan.
As the installation appeared to be a success, I took great pleasure in
removing the holding tank and associated hoses/Y-valve. NOT A JOB FOR
THE FEINT HEARTED (OR FEINT NOSED!!)
I’ll post an update if I experience any problems
Dan O’Shaughnessy
F33 Tarka
Magothy River

Posted by lolaltd (lolaltd@…>)

Good for you Daniel

I would love to be able to install the composte toilet.

Money is an issue as I lost so much in the market alone, and expenses
on my boat are at a halt for now.

I witnessed the function of one on a boat I was considering.

Congratulations.

Lola

Posted by Peter Bennett (papabenn@…>)

The problem is in Rhode Island and in the Florida Keys it is illegal
to discharge anything so you are out of luck without a holding tank
there.
















— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “daniel.oshaughnessy”
<daniel.oshaughnessy@…> wrote:

I finished installing a Nature’s Head composting toilet in my F33
(Hull
45) about a week ago. The toilet is of a robust construction. I
looked
at the alternative AirHead, whilst at the Annapolis boat show, but
thought it looked somewhat flimsy.
Now the important bits!!!
Does it smell? Not so far.
My head is now a delightful place to stand and shave!!!
I ventured up on the foredeck yesterday, where the air vent is
sited. I
couldn’t resist sniffing around the area and was unable to perceive
any “sewage” smell. The vent is permanently hooked up to the
toilets
small extractor fan.
As the installation appeared to be a success, I took great pleasure
in
removing the holding tank and associated hoses/Y-valve. NOT A JOB
FOR
THE FEINT HEARTED (OR FEINT NOSED!!)
I’ll post an update if I experience any problems
Dan O’Shaughnessy
F33 Tarka
Magothy River

Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
I met a guy in the boatyard today that said he crewed on a Freedom39-Resolute-think the owner is on this site. It was a schooner race and he said there were 2 Freedom 39’s. He said they flew and sailed great.
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”

SWARD— On Tue, 10/21/08, daniel.oshaughnessy <daniel.oshaughnessy@…> wrote:
From: daniel.oshaughnessy <daniel.oshaughnessy@…>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Composting toiletTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 8:17 AM


I finished installing a Nature’s Head composting toilet in my F33 (Hull 45) about a week ago. The toilet is of a robust construction. I looked at the alternative AirHead, whilst at the Annapolis boat show, but thought it looked somewhat flimsy.Now the important bits!!! Does it smell? Not so far. My head is now a delightful place to stand and shave!!!I ventured up on the foredeck yesterday, where the air vent is sited. I couldn’t resist sniffing around the area and was unable to perceive any “sewage” smell. The vent is permanently hooked up to the toilets small extractor fan. As the installation appeared to be a success, I took great pleasure in removing the holding tank and associated hoses/Y-valve. NOT A JOB FOR THE FEINT HEARTED (OR FEINT NOSED!!)I’ll post an update if I experience any problemsDan O’ShaughnessyF33 TarkaMagothy
River

Posted by Robert (robert@…>)

Yes, I saw the 2 Freedom 39 Pilot House Schooner versions, ‘Resolute’ and ‘Goodwind’ in Portsmouth, VA on Saturday moored along side more traditional looking schooners, including the Pride of Baltimore and the Virginia, there is fierce competition between these two boats.

You can see more about this race and the boats here http://www.schoonerrace.org/

The Freedoms are 2 of the smaller vessels taking part, in fact in a previous race one of these 2 freedoms, I don’t recall which was placed 2nd in group C.

One interesting vessel that has taken part in every race is the ‘Tugantine - Norfolk Rebel’ which not only has an interesting history of its origination and use but also of it’s original owner who, incidentally founded the Schooner Race. See http://www.tugantine.com/

Bob



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SwardSent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:54 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Composting toilet






I met a guy in the boatyard today that said he crewed on a Freedom39-Resolute-think the owner is on this site. It was a schooner race and he said there were 2 Freedom 39’s. He said they flew and sailed great.
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”

SWARD— On Tue, 10/21/08, daniel.oshaughnessy <daniel.oshaughnessy@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: daniel.oshaughnessy <daniel.oshaughnessy@yahoo.com>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Composting toiletTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 8:17 AM


I finished installing a Nature’s Head composting toilet in my F33 (Hull 45) about a week ago. The toilet is of a robust construction. I looked at the alternative AirHead, whilst at the Annapolis boat show, but thought it looked somewhat flimsy.Now the important bits!!! Does it smell? Not so far. My head is now a delightful place to stand and shave!!!I ventured up on the foredeck yesterday, where the air vent is sited. I couldn’t resist sniffing around the area and was unable to perceive any “sewage” smell. The vent is permanently hooked up to the toilets small extractor fan. As the installation appeared to be a success, I took great pleasure in removing the holding tank and associated hoses/Y-valve. NOT A JOB FOR THE FEINT HEARTED (OR FEINT NOSED!!)I’ll post an update if I experience any problemsDan O’ShaughnessyF33 TarkaMagothy River

Posted by Barry Stellrecht (yak@…>)

We installed a Nature’s Head on our F33 (hull #14) a few months ago and have
been happy with it, including one emptying of the sewage compartment! I’m not
having any problem with its construction, although I do think I’ll want to do
something to shim it up as it rocks fore and aft a little bit.

My question for you is did you have to modify the head compartment at all for
better fit? We just put ours in and it works, but the seat is higher than a
normal head, and also higher than we like. We’re thinking of re-constructing
the shelf it sits upon to be closer to the level of the grating. Could you send
us a picture of how it fits into your head compartment?

Regarding the no-discharge areas (RI, Keys) I believe it is classified as an
MSD, type III according to my vague memory. I believe it is in the same class
as a port-a-potty. So I think it is legal to use just about anywhere.

Barry

daniel.oshaughnessy wrote:

I finished installing a Nature’s Head composting toilet in my F33 (Hull
45) about a week ago. The toilet is of a robust construction. I looked
at the alternative AirHead, whilst at the Annapolis boat show, but
thought it looked somewhat flimsy.
Now the important bits!!!
Does it smell? Not so far.
My head is now a delightful place to stand and shave!!!
I ventured up on the foredeck yesterday, where the air vent is sited. I
couldn’t resist sniffing around the area and was unable to perceive
any “sewage” smell. The vent is permanently hooked up to the toilets
small extractor fan.
As the installation appeared to be a success, I took great pleasure in
removing the holding tank and associated hoses/Y-valve. NOT A JOB FOR
THE FEINT HEARTED (OR FEINT NOSED!!)
I’ll post an update if I experience any problems
Dan O’Shaughnessy
F33 Tarka
Magothy River


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Posted by mbb05055 (mary.bigelow@…>)

Congratulation on your new composting head. We have had an Air head
for 4 years now and its been terrific. I haven’t noticed anything
flimsy about it; quite the reverse. At the same time I am very glad
there is another good one out there. When we bought ours there was no
competition at all. Odors=zero even when boat had been buttoned up.
Ventilation provided by Nicro solar fan which I have been able to
ignore since I istalled it; just keeps running. Haven’t looked back.

Oh boy, just as you say, getting that old tank out was a humdinger.
What a stinky mess that was! Stand back everybody…

Anybody who is struggling with a conventional marine head should
seiously consider a composter.

I do wonder if it would be workable to install a small urine only
holding tank for extensive no discharge zones. Suppose it might get
smelly but at least it wouldn’t clog. A busy boat can fill up jugs
pretty fast. What do you think?

Mary
F 30 Corydora
Belfast Maine

Posted by daniel.oshaughnessy (daniel.oshaughnessy@…>)

Thanks, Mary
Good point about the urine holding tank.
I had thought about it. It would be quite easy to instal a manual
pump which would transfer urine to a larger tank. The suction hose
could be hooked up via a, suitably sized, hole in the top of the
tank. A small grommet would keep the hose sealed.
One would need to give consideration to venting and pumpout of the
new tank. I would prefer a hand portable tank (gasoline tank style
with a good lid and handle)
I am staying alone onbord Tarka these days, so the problem is not
urgent. As soon as my wife and four kids join me things will surely
change!
Please let me know if you carry out the modification

Dan
F33 Tarka
Magothy River

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “mbb05055”
<mary.bigelow@…> wrote:

Congratulation on your new composting head. We have had an Air head
for 4 years now and its been terrific. I haven’t noticed anything
flimsy about it; quite the reverse. At the same time I am very glad
there is another good one out there. When we bought ours there was
no
competition at all. Odors=zero even when boat had been buttoned
up.
Ventilation provided by Nicro solar fan which I have been able to
ignore since I istalled it; just keeps running. Haven’t looked
back.

Oh boy, just as you say, getting that old tank out was a humdinger.
What a stinky mess that was! Stand back everybody…

Anybody who is struggling with a conventional marine head should
seiously consider a composter.

I do wonder if it would be workable to install a small urine only
holding tank for extensive no discharge zones. Suppose it might get
smelly but at least it wouldn’t clog. A busy boat can fill up jugs
pretty fast. What do you think?

Mary
F 30 Corydora
Belfast Maine

Posted by mbb05055 (mary.bigelow@…>)

Please let me know if you carry out the modification




No, please, be my honored guest. You must go first.

Actually I live in Maine and we tend to wander north not south so its
not likely to be an issue soon.

Mary
F30 Corydora
Belfast Maine

Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)

You can buy extra liquid tanks for the Airhead. Or, just do as we do and pee in
a large wide-mouth jar.

Another solution is Wag bags. These are bags that fit into any kind of toilet.
They use a powder that turns liquids into almost odorless solids. Then you can
dispose the bags legally in any dumpster or trash can.

We’ve used those and they work well without fuss or bother.

I hate holding tanks. No pumpout stations near us.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL


---- “daniel.oshaughnessy” <daniel.oshaughnessy@…> wrote:

Thanks, Mary
Good point about the urine holding tank.
I had thought about it. It would be quite easy to instal a manual
pump which would transfer urine to a larger tank. The suction hose
could be hooked up via a, suitably sized, hole in the top of the
tank. A small grommet would keep the hose sealed.
One would need to give consideration to venting and pumpout of the
new tank. I would prefer a hand portable tank (gasoline tank style
with a good lid and handle)
I am staying alone onbord Tarka these days, so the problem is not
urgent. As soon as my wife and four kids join me things will surely
change!
Please let me know if you carry out the modification

Dan
F33 Tarka
Magothy River

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “mbb05055”
<mary.bigelow@…> wrote:

Congratulation on your new composting head. We have had an Air head
for 4 years now and its been terrific. I haven’t noticed anything
flimsy about it; quite the reverse. At the same time I am very glad
there is another good one out there. When we bought ours there was
no
competition at all. Odors=zero even when boat had been buttoned
up.
Ventilation provided by Nicro solar fan which I have been able to
ignore since I istalled it; just keeps running. Haven’t looked
back.

Oh boy, just as you say, getting that old tank out was a humdinger.
What a stinky mess that was! Stand back everybody…

Anybody who is struggling with a conventional marine head should
seiously consider a composter.

I do wonder if it would be workable to install a small urine only
holding tank for extensive no discharge zones. Suppose it might get
smelly but at least it wouldn’t clog. A busy boat can fill up jugs
pretty fast. What do you think?

Mary
F 30 Corydora
Belfast Maine

Posted by mbb05055 (mary.bigelow@…>)

I figure that if it’s a no discharge zone there must be pump out
stations , right???

My husband and I have two Airhead jugs and we fill them up pretty fast
when we are cruising for days and weeks at a time. Have to think
ahead a little… Not a problem in downeast Maine but I could
imagine it being annoying further south

Mary
F 30 Corydora
Belfast Maine

Posted by daniel.oshaughnessy (daniel.oshaughnessy@…>)

Thanks Mary

I’m sitting here with the door to the head open. The tide is rising on
the urine bottle and that ha set me thinking.

There is a cupboard under my sink where I could install a nice “fuel
tank” and a handy little diaphragm pump. This installation would also
obviate the need of opening the head to remove the urine bottle for
emptying. Marvellous!!!

Also, my “fuel tank” would be red or green, so nobody would see the
colour of my wee as I scurried along to the boatyard toilets for
emptying! Also marvellous!

I think I’ll visit the hardware store today,and check the size of
available tanks!

Dan




— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “mbb05055” <mary.bigelow@…>
wrote:

Please let me know if you carry out the modification

No, please, be my honored guest. You must go first.

Actually I live in Maine and we tend to wander north not south so its
not likely to be an issue soon.

Mary
F30 Corydora
Belfast Maine

Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

I think using a yellow (diesel) fuel can would be the more
appropriate color (Hee, Hee). Herm

At 07:44 AM 10/24/2008, you wrote:

\

Thanks Mary

I’m sitting here with the door to the head open. The tide is rising on
the urine bottle and that ha set me thinking.

There is a cupboard under my sink where I could install a nice “fuel
tank” and a handy little diaphragm pump. This installation would also
obviate the need of opening the head to remove the urine bottle for
emptying. Marvellous!!!

Also, my “fuel tank” would be red or green, so nobody would see the
colour of my wee as I scurried along to the boatyard toilets for
emptying! Also marvellous!

I think I’ll visit the hardware store today,and check the size of
available tanks!

Dan

— In
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
,
“mbb05055” <mary.bigelow@…>
wrote:

Please let me know if you carry out the modification

No, please, be my honored guest. You must go first.

Actually I live in Maine and we tend to wander north not south so its
not likely to be an issue soon.

Mary
F30 Corydora
Belfast Maine

Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Pea Green? George— On Fri, 10/24/08, Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…> wrote:From: Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Composting toiletTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, October 24, 2008, 11:14 AM

I think using a yellow (diesel) fuel can would be the more
appropriate color (Hee, Hee). Herm

At 07:44 AM 10/24/2008, you wrote:

Thanks Mary

I’m sitting here with the door to the head open. The tide is rising on
the urine bottle and that ha set me thinking.

There is a cupboard under my sink where I could install a nice “fuel
tank” and a handy little diaphragm pump. This installation would also
obviate the need of opening the head to remove the urine bottle for
emptying. Marvellous!! !

Also, my “fuel tank” would be red or green, so nobody would see the
colour of my wee as I scurried along to the boatyard toilets for
emptying! Also marvellous!

I think I’ll visit the hardware store today,and check the size of
available tanks!

Dan

— In
<mailto:FreedomOwn ersGroup% 40yahoogroups. com>FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com,
“mbb05055” <mary.bigelow@ …>
wrote:

Please let me know if you carry out the modification

… … … … … …

No, please, be my honored guest. You must go first.

Actually I live in Maine and we tend to wander north not south so its
not likely to be an issue soon.

Mary
F30 Corydora
Belfast Maine



\

Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)

George, Mary, Dan:

Yeah, pee green. That would be a better choice than yellow, because yellow is
generally used for Diesel fuel. Red is for gasoline. Puting 5 gallons of urine
in the Diesel tank could spoil one’s whole day.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL


---- george huffman <thatboatguy2@…> wrote:

Pea Green?Â

George

— On Fri, 10/24/08, Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…>
wrote:
From: Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Composting toilet
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 11:14 AM

        I think using a yellow (diesel) fuel can would be the more

appropriate color (Hee, Hee). Herm

At 07:44 AM 10/24/2008, you wrote:

Thanks Mary

I’m sitting here with the door to the head open. The tide is rising on

the urine bottle and that ha set me thinking.

There is a cupboard under my sink where I could install a nice "fuel

tank" and a handy little diaphragm pump. This installation would also

obviate the need of opening the head to remove the urine bottle for

emptying. Marvellous!! !

Also, my “fuel tank” would be red or green, so nobody would see the

colour of my wee as I scurried along to the boatyard toilets for

emptying! Also marvellous!

I think I’ll visit the hardware store today,and check the size of

available tanks!

Dan

— In

<mailto:FreedomOwn ersGroup% 40yahoogroups. com>FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com,

“mbb05055” <mary.bigelow@ …>

wrote:

Please let me know if you carry out the modification

… … … … … …

No, please, be my honored guest. You must go first.

Actually I live in Maine and we tend to wander north not south so its

not likely to be an issue soon.

Mary

F30 Corydora

Belfast Maine

Posted by Rees Midgley (rmidgley@…>)
In light of this discussion on disposal of urine, it is worth noting that in normal people urine is sterile and not toxic. The exceptions are in people with urinary track disease, generally cystitis, and few of these persons would want to be on a boat. I fail to see why regulations include discharge of urine, especially if discharge is done substantially off-shore. - Rees MidgleyOn Oct 21, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Peter Bennett wrote:The problem is in Rhode Island and in the Florida Keys it is illegal to discharge anything so you are out of luck without a holding tank there.— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “daniel.oshaughnessy” <daniel.oshaughnessy@…> wrote:>> I finished installing a Nature’s Head composting toilet in my F33 (Hull > 45) about a week ago. The toilet is of a robust construction. I looked > at the alternative AirHead, whilst at the Annapolis boat show, but > thought it looked somewhat flimsy.> Now the important bits!!! > Does it smell? Not so far. > My head is now a delightful place to stand and shave!!!> I ventured up on the foredeck yesterday, where the air vent is sited. I > couldn’t resist sniffing around the area and was unable to perceive > any “sewage” smell. The vent is permanently hooked up to the toilets > small extractor fan. > As the installation appeared to be a success, I took great pleasure in > removing the holding tank and associated hoses/Y-valve. NOT A JOB FOR > THE FEINT HEARTED (OR FEINT NOSED!!)> I’ll post an update if I experience any problems> Dan O’Shaughnessy> F33 Tarka> Magothy River>

Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

Because Bureaucrats cannot handle nuance, details, and even science.
Some guys will emphasize the nitrogen present in urine being BAD for
our pristine waters, never mind all the lawn fertilizer that washes
into the water with each rainstorm. Herm

At 12:32 PM 10/24/2008, you wrote:

In light of this discussion on disposal of urine, it is worth noting
that in normal people urine is sterile and not toxic. The
exceptions are in people with urinary track disease, generally
cystitis, and few of these persons would want to be on a boat.

I fail to see why regulations include discharge of urine,
especially if discharge is done substantially off-shore.

  • Rees Midgley

On Oct 21, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Peter Bennett wrote:

The problem is in Rhode Island and in the Florida Keys it is illegal
to discharge anything so you are out of luck without a holding tank
there.

— In
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
,
“daniel.oshaughnessy”
<daniel.oshaughnessy@…> wrote:

I finished installing a Nature’s Head composting toilet in my F33
(Hull
45) about a week ago. The toilet is of a robust construction. I
looked
at the alternative AirHead, whilst at the Annapolis boat show, but
thought it looked somewhat flimsy.
Now the important bits!!!
Does it smell? Not so far.
My head is now a delightful place to stand and shave!!!
I ventured up on the foredeck yesterday, where the air vent is
sited. I
couldn’t resist sniffing around the area and was unable to perceive
any “sewage” smell. The vent is permanently hooked up to the
toilets
small extractor fan.
As the installation appeared to be a success, I took great pleasure
in

Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)

In this country, municipal sewage and stormwater runoff are combined and end up
in the same treatment plants.

And in each major storm event, the municipal sewage treatment plants of most
towns become overwhelmed with the volume of water. Millions of gallons of
untreated sewage are dumped into rivers, bays and oceans each time. More sewage
in one iof these events than all the pleasure boats in the entire country have
out out for a year.

The outout of small boat marine heads and ensuing ennvironmental impact are
small potatoes compared to the damage cause by one such occurance.

But, we and our boats are easier targets for legislators to deal with, rather
than solving the real problems, which would require municiple govenments to
modernize their treatment plants.

Bu solutions are available. I’m not suggesting that boatesr should be allowed to
pump the contents of their toilets into local waters. They should use
composting toilets like the Airhead.

Composting toilets have been used in Euopre for decades. If they were used in
large numbers for residential applications, the problems of municipal sewage
treatment and water shortages would be solved. If composting toilets were used
in Thrd World countries would vastly improve local water quality and would save
millions of lives annually.

OK, I’m off the soapbox now.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL

---- Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…> wrote:

Because Bureaucrats cannot handle nuance, details, and even science.
Some guys will emphasize the nitrogen present in urine being BAD for
our pristine waters, never mind all the lawn fertilizer that washes
into the water with each rainstorm. Herm

At 12:32 PM 10/24/2008, you wrote:

In light of this discussion on disposal of urine, it is worth noting
that in normal people urine is sterile and not toxic. The
exceptions are in people with urinary track disease, generally
cystitis, and few of these persons would want to be on a boat.

I fail to see why regulations include discharge of urine,
especially if discharge is done substantially off-shore.

  • Rees Midgley

On Oct 21, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Peter Bennett wrote:

The problem is in Rhode Island and in the Florida Keys it is illegal
to discharge anything so you are out of luck without a holding tank
there.

— In

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
,

“daniel.oshaughnessy”
<daniel.oshaughnessy@…> wrote:

I finished installing a Nature’s Head composting toilet in my F33
(Hull
45) about a week ago. The toilet is of a robust construction. I
looked
at the alternative AirHead, whilst at the Annapolis boat show, but
thought it looked somewhat flimsy.
Now the important bits!!!
Does it smell? Not so far.
My head is now a delightful place to stand and shave!!!
I ventured up on the foredeck yesterday, where the air vent is
sited. I
couldn’t resist sniffing around the area and was unable to perceive
any “sewage” smell. The vent is permanently hooked up to the
toilets
small extractor fan.
As the installation appeared to be a success, I took great pleasure
in

Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)

Just dump 'em overboard or pee over the side.

I’m a Park Ranger and I approve of this message.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL


---- mbb05055 <mary.bigelow@…> wrote:

I figure that if it’s a no discharge zone there must be pump out
stations , right???

My husband and I have two Airhead jugs and we fill them up pretty fast
when we are cruising for days and weeks at a time. Have to think
ahead a little… Not a problem in downeast Maine but I could
imagine it being annoying further south

Mary
F 30 Corydora
Belfast Maine

Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)

Florida has been the absolute worst state in the country in providing pump-out
stations. the reason I removed the head from my boat, aside friom wanting to
have fewer through-hulls, was that the nearest pump-out station to our slip was
in Clearwater Minucipal Marine, 16 miles away.

The state requires people to comply with the law, but does not proivide the
means to do so.

I think there are a few more stations than there used to be. But now the bat is
in downtown St. Petersburg and the closest pump-out is 4 -5 miles away.

The boat now has a Porta-Potty, which is never really used the way it as
intended. We use Wag Bags. Much more convenient.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL
---- mbb05055 <mary.bigelow@…> wrote:

I figure that if it’s a no discharge zone there must be pump out
stations , right???

My husband and I have two Airhead jugs and we fill them up pretty fast
when we are cruising for days and weeks at a time. Have to think
ahead a little… Not a problem in downeast Maine but I could
imagine it being annoying further south

Mary
F 30 Corydora
Belfast Maine