Yippy the engine works. I let it run for 45 min., and then again 2
hours later for half hour
The FUEL DOCTOR, YES THATS HIS NAME…said never use BIO BOR …as
that’s what makes the black Gunk form,…go figure after so many told
me to get it. He used some other product built into his set up. Now
my boat smells of Fuel…I use a soda rinse on wood, and Frebreze sp
that helps.
He would not touch the engine to start it…when I tried it would not
stay on…so he left.
So I bleed the engine from my notes, and a guy at the start button
starting and stopping as the fuel squirted out…I think I got the
process down pretty good…amyway it started right up.
I plan to replace the Napa filter after the first sail.
Other F30 sailors…has anyone cut a portion of that aft cushion off?
That is a beast dealing with that cushion…I plan to cut mine, maybe
in half…so will fit together into one cushion.
Yippy the engine works. I let it run for 45 min., and then again 2
hours later for half hour
The FUEL DOCTOR, YES THATS HIS NAME…said never use BIO BOR …as
that’s what makes the black Gunk form,…go figure after so many told
me to get it. He used some other product built into his set up. Now
my boat smells of Fuel…I use a soda rinse on wood, and Frebreze sp
that helps.
He would not touch the engine to start it…when I tried it would not
stay on…so he left.
So I bleed the engine from my notes, and a guy at the start button
starting and stopping as the fuel squirted out…I think I got the
process down pretty good…amyway it started right up.
I plan to replace the Napa filter after the first sail.
Other F30 sailors…has anyone cut a portion of that aft cushion off?
That is a beast dealing with that cushion…I plan to cut mine, maybe
in half…so will fit together into one cushion.
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
Lola,
I believe that the black gunk form is created when you kill
a whole lot of algae in your tank after not using anything and
leaving the tank semi-empty to encourage condensation which the algae
need to grow. Black gunk is dead algae. If your tank is now clean,
using the BioBor in a prophylactic mode, and keeping the tank nearly
full of fuel, will minimize the algae growth (no matter what its
color). BTW some marine diesel fuel comes ready-made at the pump with
an algae-preventing additive (ask your fuel dock guy).
I suppose a guy that makes a living cleaning tanks and
polishing fuel might encourage everyone to forgo BioBor, and run
their tanks near empty. There’s nothing like full employment (Hee, Hee!).
BTW #2 - Borate compounds are also used to prevent
fungi/mold from devouring the wood framing in your house.
Herm
Yippy the engine works. I let it run for 45 min., and then again 2
hours later for half hour
The FUEL DOCTOR, YES THATS HIS NAME…said never use BIO BOR …as
that’s what makes the black Gunk form,…go figure after so many told
me to get it. He used some other product built into his set up. Now
my boat smells of Fuel…I use a soda rinse on wood, and Frebreze sp
that helps.
He would not touch the engine to start it…when I tried it would not
stay on…so he left.
So I bleed the engine from my notes, and a guy at the start button
starting and stopping as the fuel squirted out…I think I got the
process down pretty good…amyway it started right up.
I plan to replace the Napa filter after the first sail.
Other F30 sailors…has anyone cut a portion of that aft cushion off?
That is a beast dealing with that cushion…I plan to cut mine, maybe
in half…so will fit together into one cushion.
Just thought I’d chime in with what I have been told by my mechanic
and the guy who cleans, repairs and polishes tanks and fuel. Both said
to NEVER use Bio Bor as it is boron based (salt) and will ruin your
injectors over time. More important, when I removed all the fuel in my
107 gal tank due to a leak a few months ago, my fuel tank guy pulled
out a round donut shaped solid piece of salt (about 4" in diameter)
from the tank sump (which is the same diameter). This was laying in
the sump for some time apparently and was the cause of the corrosion
that caused my leak in the bottom of the sump. They both advise
against any fuel additives if possible, but realize a fuel conditioner
for long periods of storage may be advisable. By the way, Fantasy is
a 1981 Freedom 40 CK aft-cockpit.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:
Lola,
I believe that the black gunk form is created when you kill
a whole lot of algae in your tank after not using anything and
leaving the tank semi-empty to encourage condensation which the algae
need to grow. Black gunk is dead algae. If your tank is now clean,
using the BioBor in a prophylactic mode, and keeping the tank nearly
full of fuel, will minimize the algae growth (no matter what its
color). BTW some marine diesel fuel comes ready-made at the pump with
an algae-preventing additive (ask your fuel dock guy).
I suppose a guy that makes a living cleaning tanks and
polishing fuel might encourage everyone to forgo BioBor, and run
their tanks near empty. There’s nothing like full employment (Hee, Hee!).
BTW #2 - Borate compounds are also used to prevent
fungi/mold from devouring the wood framing in your house.
Herm
Yippy the engine works. I let it run for 45 min., and then again 2
hours later for half hour
The FUEL DOCTOR, YES THATS HIS NAME…said never use BIO BOR …as
that’s what makes the black Gunk form,…go figure after so many told
me to get it. He used some other product built into his set up. Now
my boat smells of Fuel…I use a soda rinse on wood, and Frebreze sp
that helps.
He would not touch the engine to start it…when I tried it would not
stay on…so he left.
So I bleed the engine from my notes, and a guy at the start button
starting and stopping as the fuel squirted out…I think I got the
process down pretty good…amyway it started right up.
I plan to replace the Napa filter after the first sail.
Other F30 sailors…has anyone cut a portion of that aft cushion off?
That is a beast dealing with that cushion…I plan to cut mine, maybe
in half…so will fit together into one cushion.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all
Lola f30 1987
\
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
I should clarify that the ring of salt had built-up over time due to
long-time use of Bio Bor. It settled in the low portion of the tank -
the sump.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:
Lola,
I believe that the black gunk form is created when you kill
a whole lot of algae in your tank after not using anything and
leaving the tank semi-empty to encourage condensation which the algae
need to grow. Black gunk is dead algae. If your tank is now clean,
using the BioBor in a prophylactic mode, and keeping the tank nearly
full of fuel, will minimize the algae growth (no matter what its
color). BTW some marine diesel fuel comes ready-made at the pump with
an algae-preventing additive (ask your fuel dock guy).
I suppose a guy that makes a living cleaning tanks and
polishing fuel might encourage everyone to forgo BioBor, and run
their tanks near empty. There’s nothing like full employment (Hee, Hee!).
BTW #2 - Borate compounds are also used to prevent
fungi/mold from devouring the wood framing in your house.
Herm
Yippy the engine works. I let it run for 45 min., and then again 2
hours later for half hour
The FUEL DOCTOR, YES THATS HIS NAME…said never use BIO BOR …as
that’s what makes the black Gunk form,…go figure after so many told
me to get it. He used some other product built into his set up. Now
my boat smells of Fuel…I use a soda rinse on wood, and Frebreze sp
that helps.
He would not touch the engine to start it…when I tried it would not
stay on…so he left.
So I bleed the engine from my notes, and a guy at the start button
starting and stopping as the fuel squirted out…I think I got the
process down pretty good…amyway it started right up.
I plan to replace the Napa filter after the first sail.
Other F30 sailors…has anyone cut a portion of that aft cushion off?
That is a beast dealing with that cushion…I plan to cut mine, maybe
in half…so will fit together into one cushion.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all
Lola f30 1987
\
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
Lola,
I believe that the black gunk form is created when you kill
a whole lot of algae in your tank after not using anything and
leaving the tank semi-empty to encourage condensation which the algae
need to grow. Black gunk is dead algae. If your tank is now clean,
using the BioBor in a prophylactic mode, and keeping the tank nearly
full of fuel, will minimize the algae growth (no matter what its
color). BTW some marine diesel fuel comes ready-made at the pump with
an algae-preventing additive (ask your fuel dock guy).
I suppose a guy that makes a living cleaning tanks and
polishing fuel might encourage everyone to forgo BioBor, and run
their tanks near empty. There’s nothing like full employment (Hee, Hee!).
BTW #2 - Borate compounds are also used to prevent
fungi/mold from devouring the wood framing in your house.
Herm
Yippy the engine works. I let it run for 45 min., and then again 2
hours later for half hour
The FUEL DOCTOR, YES THATS HIS NAME…said never use BIO BOR …as
that’s what makes the black Gunk form,…go figure after so many told
me to get it. He used some other product built into his set up. Now
my boat smells of Fuel…I use a soda rinse on wood, and Frebreze sp
that helps.
He would not touch the engine to start it…when I tried it would not
stay on…so he left.
So I bleed the engine from my notes, and a guy at the start button
starting and stopping as the fuel squirted out…I think I got the
process down pretty good…amyway it started right up.
I plan to replace the Napa filter after the first sail.
Other F30 sailors…has anyone cut a portion of that aft cushion off?
That is a beast dealing with that cushion…I plan to cut mine, maybe
in half…so will fit together into one cushion.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all
Lola f30 1987
–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
I thought he meant “salt” in one of the more generic chemical
usage of the word so that it is a insoluble combination of a
metal and non-metal. … Something like a borate compound with or
without the sodium rather than a ring of plain 'ol sea salt.
Maybe Jay can enlighten us. Jay?
Roger
Salt, like NaCl? How did salt (water, I presume) get into tank
in the
first place? Herm
At 02:47 PM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
I should clarify that the ring of salt had built-up over time
due to
long-time use of Bio Bor. It settled in the low portion of
the tank -
the sump.
After posting this info, I did a little further research. Boron is
usually refined into Boric Acid, Sodium tetraborate and disodium
tetraborate. Sodium tetraborate are “salts” of boric acid, and are in
a crystaline form much like table salt. Apparently, Bio Bor contains
this “salt” to prevent the growth of algea. One of the common uses I
found in Wkipedia is that it is used to prevent the growth of fungus,
along with many other uses too numerous to list. For more details
search Boron in Wikipedia.
I’ve heard this from several mechanics over the years, so I stopped
using Bio Bor years ago.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:
Salt, like NaCl? How did salt (water, I presume) get into tank in the
first place? Herm
At 02:47 PM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
I should clarify that the ring of salt had built-up over time due to
long-time use of Bio Bor. It settled in the low portion of the tank -
the sump.
Lola,
I believe that the black gunk form is created when you kill
a whole lot of algae in your tank after not using anything and
leaving the tank semi-empty to encourage condensation which the algae
need to grow. Black gunk is dead algae. If your tank is now clean,
using the BioBor in a prophylactic mode, and keeping the tank nearly
full of fuel, will minimize the algae growth (no matter what its
color). BTW some marine diesel fuel comes ready-made at the pump with
an algae-preventing additive (ask your fuel dock guy).
I suppose a guy that makes a living cleaning tanks and
polishing fuel might encourage everyone to forgo BioBor, and run
their tanks near empty. There’s nothing like full employment (Hee,
Hee!).
BTW #2 - Borate compounds are also used to prevent
fungi/mold from devouring the wood framing in your house.
Herm
Yippy the engine works. I let it run for 45 min., and then again 2
hours later for half hour
The FUEL DOCTOR, YES THATS HIS NAME…said never use BIO BOR …as
that’s what makes the black Gunk form,…go figure after so many told
me to get it. He used some other product built into his set up. Now
my boat smells of Fuel…I use a soda rinse on wood, and Frebreze sp
that helps.
He would not touch the engine to start it…when I tried it would not
stay on…so he left.
So I bleed the engine from my notes, and a guy at the start button
starting and stopping as the fuel squirted out…I think I got the
process down pretty good…amyway it started right up.
I plan to replace the Napa filter after the first sail.
Other F30 sailors…has anyone cut a portion of that aft cushion off?
That is a beast dealing with that cushion…I plan to cut mine, maybe
in half…so will fit together into one cushion.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all
Lola f30 1987
–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
\
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
Jay,
Given the minuscule amounts of this stuff I use (1/10 ounce
for each 5 gallon jerry can of fuel), I’ll take my chances to someday
have a crystalline solid resident in the bottom of the fuel tank. I’d
rather prevent the problem of algae and take my chances of this stuff
eventually (I’m nearly 73) precipitating out at the bottom of my
F-28’s fuel tank. Clogged filters are also something very
undesirable. I assume that a motor yacht, or someone that does a lot
of motoring, would be more cautious about using this stuff. Herm
At 03:52 PM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
Herm,
After posting this info, I did a little further research. Boron is
usually refined into Boric Acid, Sodium tetraborate and disodium
tetraborate. Sodium tetraborate are “salts” of boric acid, and are in
a crystaline form much like table salt. Apparently, Bio Bor contains
this “salt” to prevent the growth of algea. One of the common uses I
found in Wkipedia is that it is used to prevent the growth of fungus,
along with many other uses too numerous to list. For more details
search Boron in Wikipedia.
I’ve heard this from several mechanics over the years, so I stopped
using Bio Bor years ago.
Lola,
I believe that the black gunk form is created when you kill
a whole lot of algae in your tank after not using anything and
leaving the tank semi-empty to encourage condensation which the algae
need to grow. Black gunk is dead algae. If your tank is now clean,
using the BioBor in a prophylactic mode, and keeping the tank nearly
full of fuel, will minimize the algae growth (no matter what its
color). BTW some marine diesel fuel comes ready-made at the pump with
an algae-preventing additive (ask your fuel dock guy).
I suppose a guy that makes a living cleaning tanks and
polishing fuel might encourage everyone to forgo BioBor, and run
their tanks near empty. There’s nothing like full employment (Hee,
Hee!).
BTW #2 - Borate compounds are also used to prevent
fungi/mold from devouring the wood framing in your house.
Herm
Yippy the engine works. I let it run for 45 min., and then again 2
hours later for half hour
The FUEL DOCTOR, YES THATS HIS NAME…said never use BIO BOR …as
that’s what makes the black Gunk form,…go figure after so many told
me to get it. He used some other product built into his set up. Now
my boat smells of Fuel…I use a soda rinse on wood, and Frebreze sp
that helps.
He would not touch the engine to start it…when I tried it would not
stay on…so he left.
So I bleed the engine from my notes, and a guy at the start button
starting and stopping as the fuel squirted out…I think I got the
process down pretty good…amyway it started right up.
I plan to replace the Napa filter after the first sail.
Other F30 sailors…has anyone cut a portion of that aft cushion off?
That is a beast dealing with that cushion…I plan to cut mine, maybe
in half…so will fit together into one cushion.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all
Lola f30 1987
–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
There are other alternative algea preventers on the market. I can’t
recall the name of the product I currently use. When I dig it out I’ll
let you know.
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:
Jay,
Given the minuscule amounts of this stuff I use (1/10 ounce
for each 5 gallon jerry can of fuel), I’ll take my chances to someday
have a crystalline solid resident in the bottom of the fuel tank. I’d
rather prevent the problem of algae and take my chances of this stuff
eventually (I’m nearly 73) precipitating out at the bottom of my
F-28’s fuel tank. Clogged filters are also something very
undesirable. I assume that a motor yacht, or someone that does a lot
of motoring, would be more cautious about using this stuff. Herm
At 03:52 PM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
Herm,
After posting this info, I did a little further research. Boron is
usually refined into Boric Acid, Sodium tetraborate and disodium
tetraborate. Sodium tetraborate are “salts” of boric acid, and are in
a crystaline form much like table salt. Apparently, Bio Bor contains
this “salt” to prevent the growth of algea. One of the common uses I
found in Wkipedia is that it is used to prevent the growth of fungus,
along with many other uses too numerous to list. For more details
search Boron in Wikipedia.
I’ve heard this from several mechanics over the years, so I stopped
using Bio Bor years ago.
Lola,
I believe that the black gunk form is created when you kill
a whole lot of algae in your tank after not using anything and
leaving the tank semi-empty to encourage condensation which the algae
need to grow. Black gunk is dead algae. If your tank is now clean,
using the BioBor in a prophylactic mode, and keeping the tank nearly
full of fuel, will minimize the algae growth (no matter what its
color). BTW some marine diesel fuel comes ready-made at the pump with
an algae-preventing additive (ask your fuel dock guy).
I suppose a guy that makes a living cleaning tanks and
polishing fuel might encourage everyone to forgo BioBor, and run
their tanks near empty. There’s nothing like full employment (Hee,
Hee!).
BTW #2 - Borate compounds are also used to prevent
fungi/mold from devouring the wood framing in your house.
Herm
Yippy the engine works. I let it run for 45 min., and then again 2
hours later for half hour
The FUEL DOCTOR, YES THATS HIS NAME…said never use BIO BOR …as
that’s what makes the black Gunk form,…go figure after so many
told
me to get it. He used some other product built into his set up.
Now
my boat smells of Fuel…I use a soda rinse on wood, and Frebreze
sp
that helps.
He would not touch the engine to start it…when I tried it would
not
stay on…so he left.
So I bleed the engine from my notes, and a guy at the start button
starting and stopping as the fuel squirted out…I think I got
the
process down pretty good…amyway it started right up.
I plan to replace the Napa filter after the first sail.
Other F30 sailors…has anyone cut a portion of that aft cushion
off?
That is a beast dealing with that cushion…I plan to cut mine,
maybe
in half…so will fit together into one cushion.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all
Lola f30 1987
–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
\
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
Posted by Rees Midgley (rmidgley@…>)
Has anyone used a fuel filter funnel between the fuel hose and the fuel port on the deck? West Marine sells one that will separate water from fuel and pass 5 gal per minute of fuel through a 100 micron filter. I just bought one and will try it this winter in the BVI (10" H x 8-1/2" diam, $34.99, model 1933233). - Rees
Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
I have one and have used it many times. My only problem with it is that it leaves a lot of
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”
Has anyone used a fuel filter funnel between the fuel hose and the fuel port on the deck? West Marine sells one that will separate water from fuel and pass 5 gal per minute of fuel through a 100 micron filter. I just bought one and will try it this winter in the BVI (10" H x 8-1/2" diam, $34.99, model 1933233).
Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
OPPS!! Somehow it went before I was done-hate it when that happens.
Anyway, it leaves a lot of fuel in the bowl that won’t go down. I know that is the point-except that it will leave water or junk, but it’s a lot to get rid of if you don’t pour it in the tank. It is slow, but that’s ok. I have heard that it will be good in the Bahama’s or anywhere south of the border.
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”
Has anyone used a fuel filter funnel between the fuel hose and the fuel port on the deck? West Marine sells one that will separate water from fuel and pass 5 gal per minute of fuel through a 100 micron filter. I just bought one and will try it this winter in the BVI (10" H x 8-1/2" diam, $34.99, model 1933233).
I’ve always filtered my fuel when it goes into the tank; I thought that everyone did. Mine are homemade, but the West product looks better.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: Rees Midgley
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Fuel cleaning
Has anyone used a fuel filter funnel between the fuel hose and the fuel port on the deck? West Marine sells one that will separate water from fuel and pass 5 gal per minute of fuel through a 100 micron filter. I just bought one and will try it this winter in the BVI (10" H x 8-1/2" diam, $34.99, model 1933233).
Posted by George Huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Hey Rees,Let us know how that goes. I know the (I think) original filter like that was the Baja Filter. Those worked very well. George— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Rees Midgley <rmidgley@…> wrote:>> Has anyone used a fuel filter funnel between the fuel hose and the > fuel port on the deck? West Marine sells one that will separate water > from fuel and pass 5 gal per minute of fuel through a 100 micron > filter. I just bought one and will try it this winter in the BVI (10" > H x 8-1/2" diam, $34.99, model 1933233).> > - Rees>
Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Vacuum GaugeThe above link to an affordable vacuum gauge. I just ordered 4 of them. It doesn’t have the fancy little dial index like the Racor but I can buy a lot of grease pencils for a hundred dollars! George— On Sun, 11/30/08, Roger L. <rogerlov@…> wrote:From: Roger L. <rogerlov@…>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Fuel cleaningTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:08 PM
I’ve always filtered my fuel when it goes into the tank; I thought that everyone did. Mine are homemade, but the West product looks better.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: Rees Midgley
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Fuel cleaning
Has anyone used a fuel filter funnel between the fuel hose and the fuel port on the deck? West Marine sells one that will separate water from fuel and pass 5 gal per minute of fuel through a 100 micron filter. I just bought one and will try it this winter in the BVI (10" H x 8-1/2" diam, $34.99, model 1933233).
After posting this info, I did a little further research. Boron is
usually refined into Boric Acid, Sodium tetraborate and disodium
tetraborate. Sodium tetraborate are “salts” of boric acid, and are in
a crystaline form much like table salt. Apparently, Bio Bor contains
this “salt” to prevent the growth of algea. One of the common uses I
found in Wkipedia is that it is used to prevent the growth of fungus,
along with many other uses too numerous to list. For more details
search Boron in Wikipedia.
I’ve heard this from several mechanics over the years, so I stopped
using Bio Bor years ago.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…>
wrote:
Salt, like NaCl? How did salt (water, I presume) get into tank in the
first place? Herm
At 02:47 PM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
I should clarify that the ring of salt had built-up over time due to
long-time use of Bio Bor. It settled in the low portion of the tank -
the sump.
Lola,
I believe that the black gunk form is created when you kill
a whole lot of algae in your tank after not using anything and
leaving the tank semi-empty to encourage condensation which the
algae
need to grow. Black gunk is dead algae. If your tank is now
clean,
using the BioBor in a prophylactic mode, and keeping the tank
nearly
full of fuel, will minimize the algae growth (no matter what its
color). BTW some marine diesel fuel comes ready-made at the pump
with
an algae-preventing additive (ask your fuel dock guy).
I suppose a guy that makes a living cleaning tanks and
polishing fuel might encourage everyone to forgo BioBor, and run
their tanks near empty. There’s nothing like full employment
(Hee,
Hee!).
BTW #2 - Borate compounds are also used to prevent
fungi/mold from devouring the wood framing in your house.
Herm
Yippy the engine works. I let it run for 45 min., and
then again 2
hours later for half hour
The FUEL DOCTOR, YES THATS HIS NAME…said never use BIO
BOR …as
that’s what makes the black Gunk form,…go figure after
so many told
me to get it. He used some other product built into his
set up. Now
my boat smells of Fuel…I use a soda rinse on wood, and
Frebreze sp
that helps.
He would not touch the engine to start it…when I tried
it would not
stay on…so he left.
So I bleed the engine from my notes, and a guy at the
start button
starting and stopping as the fuel squirted out…I
think I got the
process down pretty good…amyway it started right up.
I plan to replace the Napa filter after the first sail.
Other F30 sailors…has anyone cut a portion of that aft
cushion off?
That is a beast dealing with that cushion…I plan to
cut mine, maybe
in half…so will fit together into one cushion.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all
Lola f30 1987
–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area
I’ve
used one of those filters since they first came out (they were invented by some
mountain guy in Alaska). Practical Sailor tested them and reported that
they worked better than the Baja filter at 1/10th the price. I
generally buy road diesel and filter it before it goes into the jerry can.
Has anyone used a fuel filter funnel between the fuel hose and the
fuel port on the deck? West Marine sells one that will separate water
from fuel and pass 5 gal per minute of fuel through a 100 micron
filter. I just bought one and will try it this winter in the BVI (10"
Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
As stated in the previous email I have one also. Yes it leave a little fuel in the bottom, about two tablesoons if you tilt it as it is draining. Its a poor design, the bowl looks to be a two parts fused together leaving a little ridge rather then a one mold unit) but a paper towel usually wipes it all out then into a zip lock bag and in to the marina fuel gargabe can. What they do with it after that is a mystery…Bob On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Roger L. wrote:I’ve always filtered my fuel when it goes into the tank; I thought that everyone did. Mine are homemade, but the West product looks better. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: Rees MidgleyTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:38 PM Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Fuel cleaning Has anyone used a fuel filter funnel between the fuel hose and the fuel port on the deck? West Marine sells one that will separate water from fuel and pass 5 gal per minute of fuel through a 100 micron filter. I just bought one and will try it this winter in the BVI (10" H x 8-1/2" diam, $34.99, model 1933233). - Rees
Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
These have the right screw threads as the RACOR T-Handle?? Save a lot of money I like it!BobOn Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:38 AM, george huffman wrote:Vacuum GaugeThe above link to an affordable vacuum gauge. I just ordered 4 of them. It doesn’t have the fancy little dial index like the Racor but I can buy a lot of grease pencils for a hundred dollars! George — On Sun, 11/30/08, Roger L. <rogerlov@ix. netcom.com> wrote: From: Roger L. <rogerlov@ix. netcom.com> Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Fuel cleaning To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:08 PM I’ve always filtered my fuel when it goes into the tank; I thought that everyone did. Mine are homemade, but the West product looks better. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: Rees MidgleyTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:38 PM Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Fuel cleaning Has anyone used a fuel filter funnel between the fuel hose and the fuel port on the deck? West Marine sells one that will separate water from fuel and pass 5 gal per minute of fuel through a 100 micron filter. I just bought one and will try it this winter in the BVI (10" H x 8-1/2" diam, $34.99, model 1933233). - Rees