Loss of steering

We were lucky enough to have some warm weather in the northeast yesterday. I took my new to me F32 on her maiden voyage to her new home port.

In about 15-20kts of wind with gusts up to 25kts, we did up to 6kts on a broad reach and 9.9kts wing to wing (navionics speed) with a filthy bottom (boat stored in water this winter). Unfortunately, we lost partial steering in a small squall as the weather began to pick up in the afternoon.

There is about 180 degrees of play in the wheel now. We dropped the sails and motored the rest of the way. Keeping course was obviously difficult due to all of the freeplay. The wheel is also 90 degrees off center now.

My question is, what all should be serviced and replaced in the steering system, and how can I access it? Instead of trying to diagnose what the exact issue is, I would much rather replace everything that is considered a wear item and do every possible service so that the steering feels like it did in 1985. I feel the the marina that was previously servicing the vessel (for 20+ years) overlooked many things and cut corners on a lot of their work. I know the boat came factory with an Edson pedestal, but I’m not sure which one. I have a 1985 Hoyt F32 is anyone knows which pedestal model came with it.

Another question that came to mind is what’s the deal with an emergency tiller on this boat? I imagine that there must be one somewhere.

Drew
BERK30
1985 Hoyt 32 Hull 76

I have a Mull Freedom 30.

I mention this because Edson has a record of the steering on the Freedom 30 and the install dwgs/part#s data is published on their site under boat mfgs.

The Freedom 32 is not listed but if you do have Edson steering, I’ll bet Edson can help you figure out what you have and may even have the original build data for you. If they do, get a copy, obviously, also tell them to get the drawings online with the F28 and F30 which are already there.

Thanks Mike. I just ordered a full Edson pedestal rebuild kit. I am going to try to give Edson a call to see if they can help me find out which chain and cable I need to order. I can’t wait to have my steering feeling like new!

I believe my wheel pilot is giving a good amount of friction on the wheel, and I am thinking about replacing this as well. Any recommendations on replacements? Right now the boat has no usable electronics, so I’m pretty open to anything. I have a ton of experience with Garmin, so ideally looking for something that will play nice with a Garmin chart plotter down the line, or something that works well independently.

Yes, after i bought my Freedom 32 the steering worked great for about a month, then I started to back out of my slip and the wheel just kept on turnin’ like a bad rock song.

I pulled the binnacle off and the chain had rusted through. UGH.

Got chain from Edson and instructions on how to service and maintain it from Edson. Greased the lines, chain was NOT easy, but got it done. Aligned the quadrangle and works better than ever.

Access is VERY good, in aft cabin, so very easy to fix.

Annual inspection, oil chain and lube and re-align pulleys…very simple.

Next project is it is time for a wheel brake rebuild finally - after 29 years - about $120 kit, takes a bit more disconnecting things but is easy to do, critical for sailing.

One thing to do while back there is GREASE the rudder shaft. There are zirc fittings beyond the back wall. Also inspect the stuffing packed in the rudder bearing. We figured out it was leaking in the Bahamas. Every night while sitting in cockpit the bilge pump would run. Took days to future out that the fitting is out of the water until our weight on the back of the boat drowns it. Voila…we found out leak.

Very reliable now, she turns like a race car.

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Edson Customer Service is usually very good.

Great reminder to check and lube steering.

They also have a nice collection of informative videos on YouTube

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?=PLDBr_VKN153DNPeQZXjYz1MYV1VGI06ng

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I just saw this link posted on Freedom yachts about 10 years ago.

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Would you happen to be able to share the specs of the chain and cable? Do you have a Hoyt 32 as well?

Thank you everyone for your help

Yes, I have an 85 Hoyt Freedom 32, just like yours.

Chain is a very standard size and like everyone said, go to Edson and order it. Very easy to do. Someone uploaded the web site and plenty of tutorials on YouTube. 30 eight motor oil is recommended The Freedom 32 Manual (on this site) has a whole publication by Edson on maintenance. Not sure which model we have, but there is a serial number inside of it when you take off binnacle compass. Fun. :slight_smile:

The emergency tiller is aluminum and doesnt look much like a tiller. It snaps on to the rudder post under the cockpit seat (helm). I found mine in the lazarette…Kinda odd, keep it close just in case. Can send pic if you want me to - have to go back to boat this weekend for a sail.

Hope that helps, let me know if you need pics.

Thanks. I reached out to Edson this morning and they sent me all of the part #s. I appreciate all of the advice. Did you have to haul to repack your stuffing box? I’m planning on doing all of the work while the boat is on the mooring

No need to pull it for the stuffing box on the rudder post. It sits out of the water when you dont have a bunch of people in the cockpit.

To get to it on the Freedom 32 you need to disassemble all the teak walls in the aft cabin. Just screws…do it when you service the steering cables, etc. You will lose some screws.

You can likewise go through the lazarette, but that requires a small frame and no sense of claustrophobia. I had my kid do that, but ultimately I took apart the aft cabin.

The stuffing box is easy to stuff with new stuffing. It comes out with a screw driver and is easy to pack. I bought a few extra zirk fittings as one was broken - and a grease gun - all at Lowes. They screw in. We grease it all every few years - as it is a bit of a pain (and kids are gone…damn kids).

That is one of the easier fixes. I have to service the clutch on the Edson - and that will definitely be a pain to do. The nut on the wheel is frozen, so it is going to take a big wrench to get it off.

Cheers,

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